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I hit chronic fatigue and was pretty wiped for about six months.
Speaker 2:Taylor, thank you so much for coming onto the podcast. Thank you, brother.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm really excited to have you here, just like personally, because I'm really curious, because I've been like a pool check fan for ages. So I just want to know like a little bit about your experience of like HLC, because I'm like at some point long down the line. I can't wait to like go and do this stuff. So I wonder what? What draws you to like invest into that and then like what are some of the key things that you learned from and did you enjoy it?
Speaker 1:It's been so pivotal for me in my whole life basically. So I was first introduced to Paul's work through a lady called Jen Carden and she was my coach when I was about 16 years of age and she was helping me to come up into the professional triathlon ranks so at that time, racing juniors and coming up to racing at a world stage level and she was helping me with the exercise part. You know I sought after her to help me with some training outside of my swimming, riding and running and to help me with my body, get the most out of it. So as a 16 year old I was like, you know, just give me the hardest stuff, give me the hardest, you know, gnarliest exercises, you know. And she was incredible at that and really helped me to level up my biomechanics, understand my posture, how my spine rotates, where it could be limiting in the water. She broke down my running mechanics and you know, at the time I was wearing orthotics as a 16 year old and I was like get those things out of there, strengthen your feet, and really, really helped me go to a next level physical, physically. But on the holistic lifestyle coaching part, there were moments where I was getting sick. I was quite often that I was maybe breaking down with my energy or getting sick and impacting my training or my racing. And so she started to give me certain tools from a nutritional perspective, but also a mental, emotional perspective. She was bringing in the tools that she had learned for herself, but also through Paul's work, and she began by giving me these things called zone exercises.
Speaker 1:Now, zone exercises are where you really wind down the nervous system. They're movements where you'll connect your breathing in with a slow movement. It can be kind of like Tai Chi or sometimes we do them on the floor. There can be Feldenkrais movements. So all very slow, very particular and very breath orientated. And I remember when she was first wanting to give me these zone exercises, she had me on the floor moving really slow and I was like Jen, what is this shit? I will be you this time, 16. I was like, why am I doing this? I need to be like working out hard, I should be sweating, I should be going hard. She's like Taylor, you just got to relax your nervous system. Remember that if you let go and you drop into that Paris empathetic state, it's going to support your training. And I was like, oh, I just don't care about that.
Speaker 1:I need to go hard. And so I was doing these exercises and I was like, oh, I just don't get it. I don't get it, jen. And anyway, some time passed and I actually stepped pretty deep into overtraining and I hit chronic fatigue and was pretty wiped for about six months. And so coming back to see her, she's like, hey, you got to understand your nervous system better. I've been trying to teach you these own exercises and I know you haven't been doing them because you're nervous system so jacked and you're wiped because of it. And so I really dived into the HLC principles with her during that time.
Speaker 1:So it was like dialing my belief systems, my paradigms. You know what got me there, what put me in the hole, what was restricting me from a mental level from going into that Paris empathetic state or going into slow breathing type work. What was my breathing patterns like and how did I? How could I learn to understand how that's so influential upon my body and upon my training Nutritionally? So many things had to change to support my adrenals, to support my body. You know, I remember, really like jumping into it though, going from being a kid who would just have pasta and cheese, you know, eating whatever I wanted having these pretty, pretty poor protein shakes and things like that into putting every colour of vegetable into an omelet every single morning and following that with some Celtic sea salt in the water, like you've provided me today.
Speaker 1:And really, you know, tapping into what's happening within my bloods and therefore what are some supplementation that's very specific to what's needed there, and getting so into that to support me to come out of this hole that I was in. And so I had to understand my physiology but how my brain was connected to that physiology, and so that took me into a deep dive and started to really self study and then dive into the HLC work myself. So whilst I was racing in back in 2012, I did HLC one with the Czech Institute, met Joanna Rushton, who's now still a mentor of mine today, and yeah, that just really catapulted me into understanding this whole other realm of performance but lifestyle and things like that to help my training. But it's really just helped me as a person.
Speaker 2:You've been doing this stuff for a long time, like 16, 17,. Starting to learn like those principles, checking everything like bloods, all the rest of it, and then getting your head right, belief systems right, at like 16, 17,. Like that's a lot of growth. Yeah, at a young age, especially to be like locked in. Yeah, Question Is your body perfect? Are you like just like? Is your like, are you just completely injury free and just beast?
Speaker 1:or no, I'm injury free. But yeah, no, my body is, yeah, it's, it's my temple. You know I'm into that, saying it's so important to me and yeah, from a postural perspective, how that impacts even my mindset, things like that. But yeah, been into this work for quite some time, so blessed to have have been open enough at 16. Because I remember I was handed the book the seven spiritual laws to success at 16. No way.
Speaker 1:And you read it and I read it. Oh, it's just absolutely blew my mind. You know understanding, you know components of quantum physics, aspects of energy, and you know understanding ourselves as an electromagnetic organism. Was was a huge like paradigm shift for me.
Speaker 2:So what time? So what did like success look like to you then, and what does it look like to you now? Because I know that like relationship with that evolves and changes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so just in to simplify that, I feel like I've gone from the competitive plane into the creative plane because you were competing eight years professionally.
Speaker 2:Yep Triathlete, yep Cross on it.
Speaker 1:So I was very much about being at the top of of the game and get there. I raced at a world stage level, so cool, had a few podiums at that level, which was which was epic and epic experiences, and you know and I'll share how the, this visualization, meditation, spiritual aspects would come into play in that too. But yeah, very successful for me then was around competition, around winning, and you know that's that was great for me then, because it really helped me to take myself to the next level. You know, whilst it's very much about separation, you know being at the top and being at the top of the hierarchy of performance, very ego driven as well.
Speaker 2:I was going to ask that because sometimes it's very you notice it is against yourself. Other times it is like it's it is can get really ego driven, but for your goals sometimes like it's a good thing, totally helps you get to your goals.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah and we can't mix up here that the, the ego and the soul, are two sides to the same coin, that they need each other. And you know, being driven in that way learn so many incredible things. It doesn't drive me now, but it was imperative in in my ability to understand myself and have experiences and things like that. So, whereas success now is, you know it's about, it's about family, it's, you know, at first and foremost it's about my love for myself. You know that that's really the, the driver of success for me, because if I have that and when I, when I deeply experience that, things like self esteem or leadership or, you know, connecting with people, being successful in with my clients or or being creative in my business, everything else stems from that foundation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really want to get into that. One thing that I see which is really common and a lot of people don't even understand that they have is some sort of self worth thing that that comes up Like. I find that's a lot of people I believe personally, from what I'm studying at the moment, like there's roots to shame is a very common thing that I can see. And going to a place like like you've been, you know, co-founding of and opening up like your native state, which is this bath house in.
Speaker 2:Cooling Gatta, which is like 40 minutes or half an hour, not like it's near the Gold Coast airport.
Speaker 2:Right, that's what I was going to say Like, whereas it's near the Gold Coast airport and it's so beautiful and pristine and walking in there is like such a like a nice vibe and it feels like you're in this, like Roman princes temple is what it's like when you're in there, like it's so beautiful.
Speaker 2:And I find like as a problem that I see come across, because I coach a lot of entrepreneurs and a lot of people who are wanting to find success, but the mindset isn't been 100% connected yet.
Speaker 2:It's not like the tools there. And what I know is that and what I've seen happen is that some people don't feel like they are worthy enough to open up, you know, create a space like that. They're not worthy enough to chase their dreams or try to open something. And I do believe it comes down to seeing, as you mentioned, is like okay when you love yourself enough, like so much that you're like you know I deserve to have a place like that and I deserve to provide for people like this way and host so that they can receive some of this beauty that I've got in my mind, that I can create. I just want to know, like your perspective on that and like how you use that as a driver, cause I'm thinking about my listeners and they're like okay, how can I love myself more so that I can bring more of that out?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, as I shared how to have that as a foundation is where our self-esteem can rise. But you know, bringing it back to the, the shame piece, where we're all conditioned and so much of our beliefs in our stories are embedded in our mind via our upbringing, our childhood basically. And yeah, with with our, our childhood, we're developing our subconscious mind and we're developing that via our environment how we adapt, react or respond to things. You know, if you've been given your results to a maths quiz and you see there in front of you that you've got 30 out of a hundred right, and you look over there and your friends got 85 here on the right and your, your other friend over there on the left's got 95, then your mind you create this internal dialogue that shit, I'm no good at maths. And then the more that that's repeated in in the mind, the more it embeds itself in the subconscious now as a belief or a story, and so that belief that I'm just no good at maths starts to really impact the actions we take. So if I believe that I'm no good at it, then it's probably likely that I might try and avoid maths class to avoid the shame of being not so good. I might try. I won't like opening my maths textbook to study it because I'll just have this program running that I'm shit at this, and so whatever we action therefore creates our results, and so in this instance, there's going to be a lack of results with maths.
Speaker 1:Now, whatever our results are, come back and feed our identity, and so now we identify as someone that's just no good at it, and that reconditions the conscious mind, again comes back into the subconscious, impacts the action and the result and becomes this loop. So we have to understand our loops. We have to understand what's happening at a deeper subconscious level, and the best way to understand that is to just look at your results. How are your results going? Because it's going to tell you about your subconscious, and if they're not very good, then you need to take a deep dive into a self awareness and be courageous enough to go hey, what am I actually holding here? Because the problem for our society is that there's not enough courage to do that. People are too avoidant, scared to look at their own, to look at themselves at that deeper level.
Speaker 2:I feel that one that the mass thing rang so true. So I got this memory that I haven't thought of at ages, when I was in year two or four we had like these mass cards with different colors and there was like two problems that I once needed help to figure out. I remember like the teacher was like no, like whatever, like cause I couldn't, just, I just couldn't understand, hated mass into my whole life. And then I studied aviation at uni for a little while. First thing was mass, like learn and get good at maths, and I was like this, like it's real funny, you mentioned that and just on.
Speaker 1:That is that you can try and change the actions so you can study more right. But if you still hold the same belief, that I'm no good at it. It's the belief that'll run the program. So people can try and change through their actions. But if you still running the same paradigm, then that'll always overtake the action.
Speaker 2:So how do you change the beliefs?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've got to. You got to bring in that deep self awareness. You got to start digging. And this is where meditation comes in. Meditation is a tool, but it requires it requires a lot of work. You've got to be journaling about yourself. You got to start to understand about self actualization. You got to start to understand, you know, that 95% of our conditioning is very much held in our childhood. In a child. It's about gathering the information to understand yourself more, cultivating it, whether it's through mentors or through podcasts or. But you've got to do the work. You got to study yourself. Just like you might want to study a degree, the best degree that you can study is you. And you've got to dive in. You've got to journal. You've got to, you know, step into moving through your blocks and if you need support, then ask for it. Yeah, have the courage to ask for that. But we need to develop our own In a warrior, you know, in a work warrior, to help us in all planes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so true.
Speaker 2:I find that there's so much resistance, like for that for a lot of people and I feel like this is what I think like to hear opinion on it that there has been so much conditioned shame or beliefs, or I can't do this, that when they have to take a mirror and face it up and have a look and do it in a work and be like, wow, I'm really not the person that I want to be, it's like the ego or something else is like no, any excuse to know I will work my hardest and build a business or do something to try to provide for something that I do not want to do at all. And then you know, years, years, years laid down the track but, like shit, lean into something else or whatever to distract themselves. Let's go abuse something else instead. Because I didn't, I couldn't look at myself and actually learn about myself, because it's too pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so, yeah, that comes back to needing the courage, needing to have a backbone. Yeah, so, you know, hats off to all the people out there doing that, and I'm sure a lot of people listening right now, you know, are on that journey to even just listen to a podcast like this. So you know, kudos keep going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that. I do want to talk about, like some of the meditation, like visualization tools that you've used or learned, or even just some prompts that people can like who are listening, can use or understand in terms of how you've practically use them to have things come into fruition, because they're like I won't say it enough for people who haven't seen your native state, like even like the photos are great but still doesn't do it justice. When you go there and see like how beautiful like the place actually is and like just I feel like experiencing that sort of awe when you walk in somewhere, like I like listening to Jordan Peterson he's like you know, beauty is extremely important. I have in there those aesthetics and in my personality type, I'm not so aesthetically focused. So when I do go to places I'm like, oh, I feel like I get like all of this.
Speaker 2:Oh, it just comes in and it's so good and it's a real good sign of just like you had this vision, brought it to life. Yeah, so yeah, I'd like to know some tools.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, totally so. Meditation first began for me through Dr Joe Dispenza, nice, and last year to the moon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and his meditations. I would practice when I was still racing and I would visualize. I would visualize myself in these specific races that I was about to race. One one to share a story to share is myself three months out from racing the new Sir triathlon and the new Sir triathlon is one of the biggest triathlons in the world and about three months out I created a vision board for myself, actually a vision movie. So I created myself, you know, winning other races and you know myself in these really good positions. This vision board held certain writing and prompts and mantras, but every single day I would go into meditation and visualize a certain aspect of the race, whether it was the swim leg, where we, the gun would go run into the water and I'd visualize myself first to the can. I visualized even down to the day that it was a bit overcast, a little bit rainy. I would visualize myself coming out of the water in this front group and I would be swim, trading and also visualizing I was in meditation. But I was bringing these visuals into real life. So I'd be in the pool, 50 meter pool, swimming, but I'd be pretending that I was at Nusa Beach, and so I'd visualize coming out, would get on the bike and would be going up this hill and I'd be visualizing myself feeling good and I'd do that in the meditation. But then I would be riding up Tommy Wood Mountain in Corumben and I'd be visualizing going up that hill as well, and sometimes the visualizations were so strong that I was so blocked out to the world. I was so blocked out to Tommy Wood Mountain because I was so in me just being in Nusa, so much so that when it would come to say, the run leg, I would visualize coming off the bike in this front group and I got to this point where I would be a K out from the finish line and I'd visualize myself with, at that time, my triathlon hero, so Courtney Atkinson, and I'd just visualize him and I would be toe to toe next to each other with a K to go. And at the time I was living in Broad Beach and I'd be visualizing this and I'd be running through Hedges Ave and there were moments where I'd have tears coming down my face because I'm so in the visualization of about to perform so well and coming to continue the visualization, I'd be like, ok, I want to cross that, I want to get to this point in the race, where it's him and I and I see this marker just at the bridge and that's where I'm going to go and I'm going to push there and I'm going to break him. And then, as I come over the bridge, I'm going to see my family over there and then I'm going to see my coach here and I'm going to high five him in the grandstand and I'm going to go across the line with my fingers, like this, to the side, and then the cameras are going to flash and I'm going to be like what? And so I visualize that day in, day out in my runs, in my rides, in the swim, and, anyway, get to the actual race.
Speaker 1:I get to the race and it's overcast, a little bit rainy. I run into the water first and I get to the first can first. I'm swimming, feeling good. I get out of the water in this front group, all's going well. I'm riding up up the mountain and feeling comfortable sitting in that front group. I come off the bike and and I'm in this lead group and I'm like, okay, you know, things are going well here and the run was a really good leg for me.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I get to about a K to go. And I look to my side and there's, there's, you know, my idol. And I'm like, okay, shit, how good's this. And then I see this, the landmark, I see the bridge, and then it all hits me and I'm like, shit, this is where I'm meant to go. I hang on a sec. I've seen this moment, I've seen this moment in time. And so I go and, and then I'm coming over the bridge and then I'm like I see my family over there cheering, going crazy, and then I high five my coach. I go across a line like this and the cameras flash and I go, what the fuck just happened?
Speaker 1:It was like it was like a glitch in the matrix. It was like I'm just accessed the cheat code to life. And it was like one of the most profound moments for me because it was like, what you know, I've got this, this power to manifest really solidifies that what happens in your mind first happens in reality.
Speaker 2:Like you can really bring it. You think about it so strongly and powerfully, like I try to break down manifestation into a science. You see a new yellow van somewhere. You start seeing it everywhere. Like yeah, if you focus on this Totally.
Speaker 1:And so you know, so many things came out of that for me. First and foremost, I had to believe that I could do such a thing, and so it had to be in alignment with my belief system to do so, had to have the self esteem to visualize that every single day, and through that process it was. For me it was like I've got to tell people about this and I've got to do this more.
Speaker 2:Where else can I do this, you get obsessed, right. You're like, oh God, damn, I've got to be doing this. Everyone's going to know this. I found the cheat code, I've got it, let's go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love it. So, you know, in so many aspects it just continues itself for me today, whether it's, you know, working with Olympians or World Champion athletes, through to, yeah, starting to visualize and dream up Native State and what such a space would look like, that it would be near the beach, that it would have this beautiful light field studio that would actually trailer this. But I also mentioned looks Would have greenery in there. You would have these machines is high performance tools you know would have this feel that was kind of like a beautiful yoga studio, but with all of the things that I Wanted in there to make a performance as well, and every day I'd be able to overlook the beach and check the surf as I'm, as I'm doing my thing.
Speaker 1:And then to visualize a space that was quite cave-like and Would really draw myself and people inward, and if it was darker it would be able to just let the senses relax a little. So everything felt more drawn in and I'd have all of these Beautiful performance recovery type tools like an infrared sauna, meditation space, traditional sauna, steam room, ice bath and vitality pool. But it would look really aesthetically beautiful and to have it aesthetically beautiful would be quite attracting and drawing in for people, and To have it drawn in would, yeah, invite people to want to know more, because it was aesthetically pleasing, yet it had an undercover intention of recovery. It merged both realms. It wasn't just about looking good and you know shitty quality water and you know tools that were more about just Beauty and things like that. It was like, no, this space is going to change how you feel when you walk out. So, yeah, the attractiveness is the magnet to it, but to the magnet to wanting people to Deepen their experience of themselves. So the bathhouse will might draw you in, but hey, what's upstairs?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we move upstairs and they're moving this body and it's totally different way and they feel so frigging good after it. But it's like, oh my gosh, what else is this place? And it's like, well, we've got these workshops that help you understand you know, unlock your personal power or understand postures, influence on your mindset. You do group workshops, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh sick, I'm coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then inter nutrition and and things like that, because we bring in, you know, other people that Really understand these sorts of things. What's sound? Healing workshops and people are just, you know, evolving themselves. But, you know, native state, in terms of its intention, has supported part of that journey because Wanted to bring you in to begin with, just find the beauty of the place.
Speaker 2:It's you've nailed the intentions. Like it's really cool because I'll send you this. Before, like, off the podcast, I was like you're saying like, oh, like I made it for this and this and this and this reason, like it's really interesting seeing it in the real world. I've been like that's exactly what it does. Like the point when, like you knew before, like I went in there, I go in there, I'm like, oh, my god, this place is so beautiful. I feel so good, I feel like I'm in this sort of cave thing and it makes me want to go in. And I'm like, oh, this is so healing for my mind and I need that as someone who's like performing really highly all the time. And I'm so curious and like I know there's a studio gym up there, but what's up there? Every single time, like I want to go check it out. Like I saw my partner, like we should probably like go see like what's up there.
Speaker 2:Like so you've really nailed like those intentions for it. I just love how you've brought that to Like the real world with like real strong intention setting, because one thing that I want to talk about some minute too that's what on this is that people that I, that I work with is a lot of people, um so like a lack of clarity. It's like this lack of like this exact. I want to do this, I want it to look like this, I want it to bring it to the real world, and I don't know how, but because maybe I want to do it, this other thing, or maybe I want to do this other thing, or maybe that's not the right thing, I'll get two steps forward, 10 steps back. I don't want to see it through to the end, but I'm like how clear all your intentions are, for exactly what you want has been like a superpower.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, the superpower is being decisive.
Speaker 1:Yeah and critically decisive. Yeah, that and yeah. So what you're describing with people maybe I want to do this, but I'm so drawn over here that's, that's a, a mental prison, and and it's called a state of ambivalence. So ambivalence is when you've got Opposing thoughts about the same thing, so it's like do it, don't, do it, stay, go Sleep in, go train, you know, watch TV, go to bed, and it's a state of ambivalence is being stuck in these two different things and that creates mental turmoil for people.
Speaker 1:Because, they're so divided, it's like this zipper pulls them apart and they move into two different people. So our job is to you know, through clarity, become really decisive and pull your zipper up so that you merge yourself and that you make the choice towards your dream and your goal. Every single time you make a choice, instead of you know being stuck in that, that state, that mental prison that is so cool and I want.
Speaker 2:I'm really interested like in this topic in terms of, as well as Building the business, having your own business, having like your native state as a business as well, and then having some of the I'm not sure if you actually had any entrepreneurial struggles with it, because maybe from all the work that you've done, or the plant medicines or the intention setting or whatever it is to get to there, as well as dealing with the modern mindset of that people have around money and abundance as well to create something and have it, you know being like a machine and flowing and everything working. So I just love to know how you just applied everything that you've like learnt into like business entrepreneurship.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So Bringing it into being an entrepreneur and bringing it into a business sense is one of the the most grounding things that I've done and For me, native state has been one of the steepest learning curves that I've experienced. And you know, for me there's been this, this journey. If I draw back and look at the, the greater journey of my life, I'll see that my triathlon career was held a lot of left brain plan, periodize, execute, wake up at five every day, go to bed 8 30 on the dot, don't go to bed at 8 31. It was like so precise and it was such a step by step thing that supported me in having incredible results progressively.
Speaker 1:That merged the right brain where I would go into these visions and you know, dream up how I wanted the race to look like. I shared with you, um. So I went from this very logical side through that part of the career. But post triathlon, between triathlon career and now, or you know, a few years ago, it was very right brain. I I've done quite a few journeys in in plant medicine and five meo and I've done very like visual, very etheric, very out there, um, and I didn't apply as much of the the left brain for quite quite some time.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean, how many years you just.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, I would say for about six years like I'd been on this, that sort of deeper journey.
Speaker 2:It's interesting there was like eight years professional athlete and now spiritual Know yourself. Let's go explore yeah journey. It's almost like the same.
Speaker 1:And then Well, we work in these seven year cycles. Yeah, so it's around. You know seven and a half years or so triathlon. You know about six, nearly seven on on that journey as well, and so I've watched these. Yeah, roughly seven year cycles happen and you know, for that time there was still the left brain required, I had my business, I was coaching one-on-one and and needed to, you know, implement Times and see people each hour and things like that.
Speaker 1:So it's not like I was totally off in space, I wasn't at all, but, um, definitely stepped into that realm of exploring shit. What else is out there, what? What is, you know, this connection to my soul? What is this connection to my higher self, these experiences that I would have through these journeys, and you know these experiences that were up to me to Anchor back here, like, how am I going to work with that shit here? That's the most important part.
Speaker 1:Often the people's spiritual egos will be like, yeah, I did these journeys and I went here, and then it's like, cool now, what, what, what are you? What are you going to bring To life now and how are you going to anchor it for yourself first and foremost, and how does that ripple into how you might support others. Um, so For me, you know, from from that in in the triathlon to those sorts of journeys now into business, it's I have to bring in the emergence of the right brain, the visualization, the visuals, and, um, you know more of that deeper, etheric, you know understanding gifts and how to express my value and kind of pulling that back down and going, okay, how am I going to create a strategy in a business and how am I going to execute it each day? And for me, with a full diary and being coming back to that real deep performance part of Okay, day in, day out, this is what it looks like to run a successful business and to meet our quarterly rocks and roll up to our one year forecast and vision in the business, to what's our greater three to five year target, into our what, what we call B Hag, big, hairy, audacious goal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that, which is a 10, 10 year, a 10 year thing. And and to work towards that 10 year vision, we've got to come down into what we need to do today, what's our to-do list today and and how well can we execute that and work as a team to do so? And so I'm really re-anchored back into the business and and but I'm doing it in this way where it's emergence of the left and the right brain.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so sick, that's so cool doing it in a way where it's, you know, anchoring ancient wisdom with new technology and today's modern, modern day part. So we need to bring them together and they need to do a big clap and and Sink with each other to be a higher potential for ourselves. I feel like that's so needed, you.
Speaker 2:Like it's not for anything to like really take off. Because I feel personally people like you're owning for that little bit of deeper connection and like you can feel it when you go to native state, like, well, it's like the little details to everything, it's just like this, which is so cool?
Speaker 2:Because that's like a as like an entrepreneur like myself and thinking about those things, like I'm running through thoughts in my head and it's like run for the term of like, okay, well, do. Why then? Because, like I'm sure people were listening to be thinking about this, like to talk about the question Do I go focus? And if I'm confused, do I go focus on journeying, more self exploration, more see where I can go to get my right brain, like firing before I start executing, or do I just need to execute? You need to run both parallel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need to. You know self explore, but at the same time, it's during that self exploration that you know, you know what you need to do. Your answers are in there. So so yeah to to be able to understand self and, at the same time, run that parallel with putting yourself into, leaning into your challenges. Leaning into the pressure of things helps you to do it. You don't just do the journey and then come back and now you're equipped to execute.
Speaker 2:That's cool. That's what my brain goes like. Oh, you go like journey and then you execute.
Speaker 1:Instead it's consistently doing both yeah yeah, because, like for me, business has brought up so many parts, so many shadows as well?
Speaker 2:Have you got a few that you can like share, that you're aware of currently to be here? Yeah, you know like.
Speaker 1:For me it's been this, this journey into more leadership, which you know, for so long I've been a mentor. But there's also a difference between being a mentor and being a leader.
Speaker 1:You know, mentoring is helping, helping to support people in going. Hey, you know, here's some blocks, here, here's some tools. I need you to go and practice these things and, you know, come back and let's see what the process is and how you, how you've went with that, whereas more of a leader is also. It looks like, hey, you've had these to do, is this this week? And I'm here to help you be accountable to that. Now, why haven't you done it?
Speaker 1:And there's this greater it's a healthy, healthy, warrior energy to going. Hey, we're on a mission here, let's go, don't get left behind. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to drag you. So let's pick yourself up and let's go. And that's more of the leadership energy that's had to be cultivated within me and I've had to work through the parts of me that may just want to be liked by others and maybe hold back on on more of that leadership energy and go to what's known, which is more of the mentoring part. So you know, one, one growth part there for me, through the development of native status, is being more of a leader and not just a mentor.
Speaker 2:That's really cool. Did you find yourself when you were like more mentor, not as much leader, in terms of a shadow of just like maybe doing too much for other people and like getting caught up in, like losing time and being like shit? Where's the time going in my day because I'm yeah. I'm picking up all this slack instead of, like, empowering and giving people a bit of a like, a, I would say, an encouraging kick up the arse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, totally, it's a great one, exactly right. So, yeah, definitely definitely something that's. Yeah, I have the personal experience of what you've just shared there.
Speaker 2:Cool, I really like that. So how did you then get out of it? Well, it comes maybe currently still working on it. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Definitely will always be working. But what? What I've noticed is what underpins good leadership is self love. So it's like to to honor myself helps me to therefore then speak the truth with somebody and where there might not be being accountable for what they're doing or responsible, but to be able to have the courage to call that shit out means that I've got to be in a position where I am in self love. If that's not there, then you know we might be very attached to wanting to be acknowledged by other people, or appreciated or approved of by others, or accepted, and if we're always searching for those those sorts of things, then we'll never really step into the leadership of calling out, you know, the lack, or calling out the fears, or getting people to come along. So that sits under good leadership.
Speaker 2:Well, I like that. Did you find that when you're out, like when you're really focused, you had that six, seven years when you were focusing on yourself and going inwards and doing the part medicines and meditation, the visualizations? Did you find that you took things from that and you've had to anchor those things down into leadership as well? What and what were they?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so in the, you know, I'm experiencing those, I'm seeing those parts of me. But then business has been the playing field to really put it into practice, because we can see those parts of us. But we've got to put it into real life and really like ground it and put it into practice with others and and with our business and with what we're doing in work, so that we can put it to the test To and not just talk about it, not just have it as knowledge, just potential there. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I know that self love underpins leadership. It's like, oh, do you? Well, let's put it to the practice. Yeah, so there's just knowledge, which is for knowledge sake, but then there's wisdom where you really walk the path, and we need, we need more wisdom. You know there's too much knowledge out there. Not that there's too much knowledge, there's just not enough anchoring, practicing of turning that into walking the path and the wisdom.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's so cool and what's it like, what things that I'm interested in that as well, in terms of like the putting things in practice. Like how did you Take away, like, how did you get the pieces for, like, your native stay out there and you're like, oh, my goodness, I'm doing this. How did you go, like, okay, I'm actually gonna, I'm gonna bring this and, like, actually make it come yeah, well, it's just the necessity of creating a good business like it's.
Speaker 1:To do it well, you need, you know, healthy tribe people to do it well. People need to be in the right places of roles and responsibilities To do it well. You need to execute those roles and responsibilities and always be on top of how we support our people walking through the door, what's their experience and how do we constantly level that up? And so you know it's just, it's just through doing it, you know there's just no better experience Then doing it. Yeah. So that's why I say don't be the procrastinator and do all of the right brain stuff and then think, if I just do all of that, then I can come into what my purpose is and then I get it's like, no, like Really follow, follow what you're drawn to and and Put that in play and execute in the now and, and you'll merge the both.
Speaker 2:So give you the the deep experience you've also now that as well in your native state, tell with the team because, like, every time that I've been to the place, like everyone's been like above and beyond, like Actually really creating a really nice experience, like, wow, this is like so good so you can see how alike Filters down to. So yeah, thanks for setting the standard in that way. No, thanks.
Speaker 1:It is really cool. Yeah, there's so many, so many parts to that that have been supportive of me, and it's having incredible business partners that have been amazing and helping me to level up in that sense too. So, yeah, it's about being around the right people to help us evolve, and do you think that?
Speaker 2:Learning how to be an athlete, like world class athlete, and by doing the training, doing the periodization, like learning how to do all those things. Do you think that that's benefited you now and if so, how so?
Speaker 1:definitely, definitely, because it's just about when you're training, when you're an athlete you just need to show up and you need to, you know, have an intention for each session. What are we here to execute? What are we here to do? Well, this is a hard session and these are the times we want to try and nail. All right, let's give it a crack, let's see if we can stick to that, and then that just comes into what we do each day. You know, what am I, what's my intention today? What am I here to do?
Speaker 1:Okay, well, I've got these clients, we've got these people walking through the door today at these times. So how do I show up in one of our Action items? We show up in our power and peace each day, and so that's like a mantra for us. Whether it's the girls at the desk at the front or going through the bathhouse, they're practicing being in their power and their peace each day, where they were about to take a class upstairs. How do we show up in our power and our peace? And that's a native state mantra and living philosophy.
Speaker 2:So cool. I just love how everything's like stem down. That's really awesome. I think, like as well, from like an athlete's perspective as well as all the tools and the lessons that you've learned in that like not everyone's had the opportunity to Like being an athlete working the ways where it is like working on your own body physically I just think that, like I like personally, I just really encourage any sort of athletic Endeavour for the purpose of learning those skills. Yeah, so that you can show up in a balanced, integrated way. Yeah, that's like immovable.
Speaker 1:Totally. I think being an athlete or practicing music, or practicing art, having structure around certain things, I think are all incredible tools for, yeah, and upbringing, and if that hasn't been your upbringing, then you know, bring it into now. Whether you're calling is towards this form of movement or sport or this level of music or you know, and business is that too. But, yeah, practicing those things are really really key.
Speaker 2:I love that so cool. Was there anything else that you wanted to share or mention?
Speaker 1:I think just yeah, it's about, I think the left and the right brain thing felt really true today. I think, bringing them in In together. And what, what? What has been your kind of you? Know, what is? Has your mind gone with the emergence?
Speaker 2:yeah, you really got me of just like Running in the same time parallel, because my brain very goes one thing or the other have. This aversion is just me personally, where I'm like focus on one task, focus on it to the end of the world, like it's a superpower that I got some time I can. You know, I can just sit there or do whatever and I'll just like Nothing doesn't matter until I finish this. Whatever this one thing I have, I think it's like really cool. I have like breaking them up and being like no, do them together. Because they both go together, because I always find myself up here, down here, up here, down here.
Speaker 2:I balance itself out for sure. But I'm like, oh, there's definitely like wisdom that I could use just in my day and that is a little bit more intention setting. That is a little bit more of making sure that like because I planned a lot of my year out and I had put in the exploration things my cool on that this year. You said you're gonna do it. This is the balance that you need really on a like those things and it's like cool, like I love that because it helps on your journey for like them. Speaking to myself right now, helps on my journey for impact, helps on my journey for entrepreneurship, helps on my journey to help people and I'm like wow, so there's more reasons, yeah, for that so I think that's yeah, it's so sick.
Speaker 2:and then, like you know, bringing what's out, as mentioned, like Into reality because you've got these ideas yeah, being the just decisive to pick which ones and just like Like notice that they work on them, I was like thinking, I was like visualization, I'm like, oh yeah, there is definitely, because when I was compete, when I competed in bodybuilding 2019, got a program, I visualize that whole thing and I'm like, literally, it was like the morning of the day before I was like, oh shit, well, I was going nuts and then, on stage, at exact thing happened, like when they were calling out the names, I just got ready To win. I was just like, oh, my goodness, that was such a big event for me. It's not always like an Australian title, world title or anything. For me, it felt so Strong because they had so much connection to it. So bring that, like, bring that reality.
Speaker 2:Then my command, that's definitely like Super powerful, super powerful. Using that on a scale of one to 100, I'm like probably like 25 at the moment, that definitely should be sharpened. Yeah, so that was sick. That's yeah for the listeners like to give him a challenge you could give them to do either like today, this week or something like they've listened to this podcast and like Take action on something, yeah, yeah. What challenge would you like to give him?
Speaker 1:or challenge for you guys. Hey, yeah, I think I was mentioning within the podcast that it takes courage to dive into yourself. So I think a good challenge is to compassionately inquire into something that you've Stored away or you've not wanted to look at within yourself. And I say compassionately inquire because it means don't bring judgment to it, just bring curiosity, bring compassion, bring acceptance that it's there and do some writing about it and stay in the compassionate inquiry of it and catch when you go into judgment of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think that's so powerful and I love that because I do as well think just writing as well is like one of the first steps that you can take from bringing the Out here yeah, into reality as well, because it's on paper. It's like, oh, I'm starting to see it, yep, which is sick. I love it. Where can people find you? Where can they find you on Instagram? Where can they find you and all the things, and how can they get to native state?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you can find me personally at Taylor Cecil T a y l o r c e c? I l and then at your native state on on social media as well. Native state itself is at Kira Beach. Yeah, right next to to calling out of airport. So, yeah, you know if you're around, you know wherever you're from. People are coming from all over Australia to experience the space. But, yeah, come in, come and feel the vibration held in the space.
Speaker 2:It's so cool. Well, thanks for coming over to the podcast.