Louis' journey throughout his time with Set The Standard has been absolutely insane, so it was really special to have this opportunity to sit down with him recently.
These topics and so many more, I hope that you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we did recording it.
Big love,
Corey
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Louis' journey throughout his time with Set The Standard has been absolutely insane, so it was really special to have this opportunity to sit down with him recently.
These topics and so many more, I hope that you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we did recording it.
Big love,
Corey
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It literally makes me happy just thinking about it, because I'm like that's never happened before. That's never happened before. Louis, thanks so much for coming onto the show man. Oh, thank you for inviting me. Yeah, I'm pumped for this conversation.
Speaker 2:It's nuts. Because you're part of the community, you smash the next level, and one thing that I really admire about you is that you claimed your purpose Like I don't know how long ago. It was it.
Speaker 1:To be honest, I don't think I fully claimed it until the very last week of finishing the course and main part of it was like when I kept doing the Y, I realized that I wanted to be the breaking generation of my family, my parents, I don't know. I don't want to like put any shade on my family or anything, but it doesn't have the greatest last name, like if someone thinks of my last name I probably wouldn't think of anything great, and I wanted to be the change in that. I want to be like once my when I have kids and stuff. I want it to be changed. I want to be sort of a new legacy and I'd never really even thought about that until I started with the community.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was just crazy. And then like fast forward, you're building a motor cross track in Bali. Tell me about how you like went from that to like understanding what it is that you really wanted to do. And then like doing something so big and grand and like the steps of are there, you can see the map, you can see the destination now.
Speaker 1:Well, it's actually a pretty large story. Like, if you want me to fully go into it, it all really starts with my friend, joe, that's been on this, calling me, and actually I messaged him and said what's all the? I've seen him posting all this stuff and I was like what is this? And I'm like I wasn't even interested. I was just curious. I was like what is it?
Speaker 1:And then he messaged me and then he said I actually think that you would be a really good candidate for this course, cause he knew that I had something new me, I wanted to be a little bit better. And then I remember calling you and then after it he told me how much it was and I was still like, cause I'd never spent that amount of money on myself. And then I was like and then I called Joe back and I was like, is it really worth it? And then he goes you're either going to change your life or you know that you just you've tried something and you don't need to do it anymore. And, to be honest, from that point it's honestly changed my life. And then, once I have, once I finished the course, I had realized oh sorry, let me go back a bit I'd just moved to Queensland, I knew that I had to sort of get away from Melbourne cause I had a pretty toxic life down there, just with just the way, that way that I was living.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to be honest, I'd gotten past most of the stuff that I was doing. Yeah, I was parting a lot like at some points every day for years on end and I was doing a lot of shit that we can get in later if you want. But I'd moved to Queensland with a good friend and I feel like moving away and traveling by yourself, you get the time to just do what you want to do and then when you are surrounded by a million people and million friends, you just constantly get dragged here and everywhere. But I finally had some time to just do me. And then, after I finished the course, I started, I did a couple of overseas trips by myself and I was living by myself for a while and I just realized that what I was doing during the day I was going to work, I was riding my dirt bike two or three times a week and I was going to gym and I was boxing. So I was like there are obviously the three things right now that I've really enjoyed and that I want to continue doing in my life, and motorcross has been the one thing that's been there consistently my whole life and I always thought that I was like I'm never good enough to be a pro to make money out of stuff and I was like how can I monetize this? And I never had the belief in myself that I could actually do something. I was like I don't want to be a sales rep or anything. And then there's a dude in Melbourne, shane Boyd. He's got a track and he's just like a family dude that just runs his track and he rides it every day and he's my favorite track down there as well. And I was like this dude's living the dream and I was like I want to do that and I was like how can I do this? And I was thinking about it for ages.
Speaker 1:And then I went to Bali at the start of the year and I did like a few of the tours and stuff over there or going around to the volcanoes and the rainforest and all that kind of stuff. And I remember after finishing it I did it with my sister's husband and one of his friends as well. And I remember on the way home I was like I could do this so much better than these guys. And literally on the way home I'd started writing a business plan. I'd never written a business plan in my life and I was doing it just because I was just so excited. I was like this is it, this is it, like I'm going to do it. And then I got home and I finished writing. I wrote like five or six pages of stuff. I had no idea what I was doing. And then I got my sister's husband and one of his friends to do it and then literally they offered me like 75k straight away and I was like holy fuck.
Speaker 1:And then I went home and then I was thinking about it for a bit and then I was like you know, I actually don't want to do the tours. I'm like, if this is going to be the thing that I'm going to be doing, it needs to be exactly what I want to do. And what exactly I wanted to do was build my own motocross track and be pretty much a be-shame boy. And then I had a dude that just got to ride his track every day and then had people come and possibly have the best one in the world, really, or not in the world, in Australia or in Bali, or whatever I wanted to do. Because the plan was to do it in Bali, because I was like I can do this in Bali because it's a lot cheaper. And then I created the plan that next time I go to Bali I'm going to just drive around and just try to find some sort of land.
Speaker 1:And I spoke to heaps and heaps of people and lots of people were like oh, I'm going to try to help you, I'll try to help you. But at the end of the day I knew that I had to do something and I wasn't just going to have to rely on people. And, like we said, when we went to Tony Robbins, there was multiple people there that were like I can help you do this, I can help you do that. But then obviously I spoke to them a little bit flaky and then I was just like I just got to do something and it was sounding like a huge task to do, but literally just thinking of what's the first thing I can do, and the first thing I was doing, I was like I'm literally just going to get on a scooter and just go ride up, just ride the streets and just find land.
Speaker 1:And then I was literally on Google Maps and I was just saving spots and I was like I'm just going to go get because my sister's got some people that live like some workers for them. And he said that find some spots, put them on Google Maps and I'll go there and speak to the owners of the land. And then I was just cruising around and I go down this driveway and I actually find this huge bit of land that's already got run down motorcross track on it and the dude was there. The dude lives there and he was just like walking around and I was like can I have a look around? And then I was like I'm speaking to this dude through Google Translate because I couldn't even speak to him. And then I was like just walked around the track, looked around the property, and he was like show him around the property. And I was like, straight away, I was like what the fuck is happening? I was like this can't be real. And then I was Google Translate. I was like are you open to investment? Or something like this. And he was like massive smile on his face, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then after that, straight away, I was like this is it? I like I didn't know, but I was like it couldn't be this easy. And then, and then I went home. I spoke to his name's Konok, the guy that works with my sister in Bali and I was like, can you go over that? Can you come back with me and have a meeting so you can translate, because I like I can't, I can't talk to this dude. And I went back there and we had a meeting for like an hour and talk some things out and then, literally from that point, I wrote up a contract. It's a code, at least contract or something yeah it's like it's called it, I kind of remember.
Speaker 1:Anyway, there's a contract to say that he can't do business with anybody else until the end of June 2024. And so we wrote that contract, he signed that and a game of deposit. And now we've I've just had a surveyor out there to measure up all the land, to find out exactly where you pay per acre, and so to find out exactly how much land there is, because there's buildings on there as well. There's already like a toilet block building. So, yeah, I want to renovate the building, so make like kitchen stuff in their storage area and fix up the toilet block and do some like heaps of shit there. And yes, I had the surveyor out there and they said, okay, it's 40 acres.
Speaker 1:So then we made a deal and now I've given the deposit and mid next year when I get the money, I've given the deposit, but I want to do everything at once. So, start to mid next year I want to start doing the renovations, and then, yeah, and then I'm going to move over there at least for a while and try to live that dream. And yeah, well, I was going to go all out and just put everything I had into it straight away. But then I spoke to some people that gave me some good advice and said spend as little money as possible and see if it works, and then, if it starts working, then you can put through the kitchen sink at it, because I was straight away just going to build guest houses on there straight away, like Bali hearts and do everything straight away. And they're like just see if it works first and then and go from there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's cool I actually seeing you, because it was like when, like I first like met you, so knowing you, was like there was some things to sort of work out. You're like, oh, I'm working out a few things. It's like you worked them out. You started crushing it in your business. You're like I want to do this motor cross thing. You went to Tony Robbins, then you climbed Mount Everest. I didn't climb.
Speaker 1:Mount Everest I just imagined it. Stone wall, I went to base camp and a few other peaks, but yeah, it was. I know when I hate saying base camp because it sounds like it's not really an achievement if you don't know what it is, but it's actually quite hectic.
Speaker 2:And he said it was 14 day hike was 15 days straight, and yeah, and now so we did a big loop, so we did extra.
Speaker 1:So normally if you just go up there, you just go up there and back. But we ended up doing extra. So we did the okay summit and we did kind of. They always had crazy names. I can't remember the other one.
Speaker 2:Do you recommend it? Do you recommend people go and do Everest?
Speaker 1:I would say yes to anyone. I think anybody could do it if you have the mental capacity to get through it, because there was people getting flown out in helicopters every single day, either from altitude sickness or people just giving up. So in some spots it is like a little bit of like a highway. There is like a fair few people, but like, the further you get into it, the less people get more dropped off and just I've also, just I was so grateful the Port is over there. They're the people that carry the bags. They're like the one that we had. He was only 19 years old and he's probably 50 kilos and he's carrying like 80 kilos on his back down. Yeah, and that's just what he does. And they get paid Donuts. They pretty much live off tips. I'm like these guys are crazy. Yeah, there was people carrying. They said people carry up to a hundred to 120 kilos on their back and down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the base camp in Bay. Yeah, they're also surely the fittest people in the world. They would have to be Surely that have to be so bit.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I honestly couldn't believe it. And they're like going up quicker than them. Wow, because they have to get there first. So then we get to the. The tea house will stand that all of our stuff was already there ready to go.
Speaker 2:But I'll tell you that out, I was like you can just full white man it out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, dude, I couldn't have done it. I had like. So you get, you get them to take a bag, and then you you have to hold like a day pack, and just that day pack was hectic.
Speaker 2:Did you what it like altitude sickness? Feel like I've never been high enough to I haven't had.
Speaker 1:I didn't have altitude sickness, but I Did struggle like sleeping a few nights, so like a couple of nights in bed. I was just sitting there going Because you have to actually consciously breathe. It's like really hard to like chill and then it makes your heartbeat really fast as well, so it's hard to chill and get to sleep. And also, when you're actually hiking up and You're already out of breath, like it was, it was pretty intense, like yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:Honestly, you were so in your mind if yeah, I was, if you weren't mentally prepared to do it, I don't think you could do it. And like I was, like I said, if I didn't have my friend, that there was things I would have given up on Because there's some parts you can give up on. Like that. We got told of the altered altitude I'm sorry the acclimatization days, with the chill days and like, sweet, there's gonna be a couple chill days, but the on the acclimatization days are the days that you have to hike up a mountain and acclimatize. So when we got there, I thought I was like I was yeah, so we're like what?
Speaker 2:would you learn today?
Speaker 1:And they're like nah, we've got to hike up that mountain, which is going to take like four hours to get up there, and it's just like and then chill there for a while and then come back now. Yeah, and on one of the days it was snowing and we left it like. We left it like four in the morning, so it was dark, it was snowing and you couldn't see nothing and I was like I felt like crying and me and my mate were like hugging and shit half way through, like we could do this.
Speaker 2:Is Mount Everest like like when you look at it? Is it around other mountains? Or is it just this ginormous? Nah, it's just.
Speaker 1:It's covered by heaps of other mountain Himalayas and lots of other mountains, so there's not even that many spots that you could actually see it, which is weird because the highest point on earth, but because it's covered by so many other mountain ranges that you can't really see it from a lot of places. Did you get to see it at all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we've seen it heaps of times, but literally just like the tip of it, like so small. Oh yeah, because you're already so high up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, damn I was expecting like this, just gigantic mountain, like it's actually pretty underwhelming, like the side of it, but just the sheer size of all the other mountains, so like I don't know if you've been snowboarding or anything like that before, so I have spent like a bit of time like in the mountains, but those mountains look like little baby mountains, like it looks cool, as like when you snowboarding down, everything's like mountains everywhere. It looks amazing. When we're over there, everything is just On steroids, like it's just huge, makes you feel so tiny. Did you get like any perspective from it? Huge, I got heaps. Number one saying that was that I could literally do everything, like at the end of the day, like if you were standing in one point and you'd look where you came from. You'd be like it would. If you just looked at it and said we have to go over there, you'd be like impossible, impossible, but just literally just that, one step in front of each other. You can get there so easily. That's so cool. That's so cool.
Speaker 2:So I'd like to hear like a couple more stories as well for you in terms of how you like came to Understood your purpose and what you had to like break through, because, like, if you just look at your last year, it's just been nuts Right. You've just been like Kicking all these goals, business and everything. What was some of like the catalysts and the stories that helped you and lessons that you learned to help you get that drive, you know, get that motivation and really take action on what's important, instead of just like falling into the mundane? Well, I think that I've always had it inside of me.
Speaker 1:I think that I've always I've always been a driven person. I've always been sort of like the one out of my friends. It's always, always looked for more and always like, try to be like Like the leader, sort of like, even as I was younger, I was doing in the wrong ways. So like even when I, when I started my apprenticeship I started a bricklaying apprenticeship when I was 16 soon as I left school, dads like If you leave school, you gotta get a job. And I got a job literally on the first day I was like I wanted to quit but I didn't look like a pussy to my, to my boss and my other friend that was working there. So I was like I gotta go back. But then straight away I was like I knew that. I was like how else can I make money? How else can I do things? So, straight away I was working but I was sort of slacking. And then I'd Started dealing drugs from a very early age and I realized that I thought that was going to be my life.
Speaker 1:I thought that was who I was going to be. I thought that I was going to be a party. I thought I was going to be selling drugs my whole life and I thought I was going to be like some kingpin pretty much and I'd yeah, I sort of had rollercoasters of that and then I got pretty addicted to to ice for a long time and then lots of bad things happened, just like broken up with my girlfriend, had Nearly got stabbed, had guns, baseball bats, like put him. It came to my house and it's just pretty gnarly and I was like this isn't me, this isn't me. What do you think led you to that? Like what was the? What was like the spiral to get you my boss, my apprentice boss? It was him. That was. I became him. He was, he was the dude when I used to come to work. He was only 24 when I started, when I was 16 and I crazy.
Speaker 2:Just want to say, like you had that intuition hit from the first day. Now I want to quit. And then, out of Validation from other people at that age, which you don't know, it's like, oh, now I've got to stay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I was younger, it completely was that it was just who's cool, who's strong, who's a badass, who can fight the most, who can do all this stuff. And it was a constant battle of me not being that person, but trying to be. And then the way that I tried to do it was to be this badass drug dealer. And but, like I said, when I first rocked up to work, my boss was Was this person? They had flashy car, had all the money, had the business. Everyone looked up to him, who's respected and your role model as a man, yeah he was, and he just looked like my point of view.
Speaker 1:He looked like he was killing it, looked like the coolest person on earth and that's who I wanted to be, because that was really my only role model, really. And then I literally became that person and then, after a while, I had a bad breakout with a girl, and I'll get you every time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really bad break up. And then I don't care what anyone says, if you're attached to get you.
Speaker 1:And then I had police raid my house. I thought I was going to jail and then I stopped dealing after that, but then I continued to do To smoke off. And then my boss that I was working for at the time Was giving it to me for free every day, like he would literally rock up to my, my parents house. I didn't have a license either. I lost my license like I did nothing. And then, yeah, I remember one morning he rocked up and I was like, if you bring that thing to my parents house again, I want to smash it over your head and I'm gonna quit. And then I ended up working like a little bit longer with him and then after that, I am, I Was like fuck it, I'm gonna start my own business. I was like I don't know what happened and oh, there's a lot in between that. But it took me like two years of trying to quit, to actually quit.
Speaker 1:And I I think the biggest thing is is never stop. When you're in a position like that, never stop quitting, because one of the times it's gonna work. And I also I have this thing inside of me that my body just I don't know if it's just growing up or what? But my body just changes like all of a sudden, just like one day. It's just like I've had enough. I've had enough, and it's happened with lots of things, even like Just before I started the personal development journey, like I knew that I'd had enough with that life. And oh, that's when I moved up to Queensland. It's like I know it's like intuition or what, but my body's just no you that I had to Change it up, but I feel like I had to go. I had to do that to get to the place that I am to now. I kind of really remember what the actual first question was, but or where I got the drive and stuff from. How did you?
Speaker 2:create it because it's like you had those things. And then you started like you know, working on yourself, and you started like taking action on certain things and because that spiral down Would have been wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in terms of it like because it was to be honest, I didn't do it because I wasn't doing drugs to be cool or anything or to hide anything or to To run away from anything. I genuinely loved doing drugs for a long time and then, when I deep down, and then I just got stuck at the last two years I was addicted and that's when I was sort of I might have been escaping things from my breakup and stuff. But after that my body's like no, I had enough. And then I sort of did stop. I did stop and then I just lost my train of thought. But After yeah, after that, I started my business.
Speaker 1:I just knew I was like I was working for that guy and I was like why the fuck am I still working for this dude? I'm like I can do everything. He didn't even come to work. He literally just dropped us off and then left. And then I was like I can do everything and I remember I had this dude that I'd worked with before and he messaged me and he's like His data just passed away and he's like I just got this, this inheritance, and he's like I want to start a bricklaying business, but I don't know what I'm doing, but he's like you've got the, you've got the knowledge and I've got all the tools, pretty much.
Speaker 1:So then we started a business together and then, literally within like I don't know the first job or the second job, we had a punch on and oh no, we were on scaffold and I was so angry like this is the dog's thing ever, but I regret it I punched him and off the scale we're on the scaffold and I like grabbed him, punched him and he fell off the scap scaffold and like full, like fucked him up. And then I was like we're not doing this anymore. And then I called the builder and I was like, when this guy stuffs everything up, call me and I'll take over it all. And by this stage we did two jobs or something I'd already like bought on my own stuff because I was like as soon as I get money, I'm just gonna spend it all on tools. And then literally like a week later, the builder called me and then I started taking over his jobs and that's how my business started really.
Speaker 1:And then I had that for like six or seven years. But I was still just living in emotionless. When I was growing up, everyone always thought that I was like emotionless and I didn't care about anything because I was just like persona that I had. And it was really hard and I, like I said I wasn't that person, but I created that over like ten years. It was really hard to get out of that you identified as how did you?
Speaker 2:know that. How did that feel when you were in that position? If you're like when you had the presumption, they're like, oh, people don't think I'm like can be emotional. People think I don't care if I don't think I give a fuck, and then really you do, and then it's like a struggle to be able to show it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at the start I was happy with that. I wanted, I sort of wanted that. And then I don't know because, like I said, I wanted. When I was younger I wasn't that tough dude, but I wanted to be because that's what I thought was cool, but casing on.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then when I got to a certain age it was like I'm not this guy anymore, I don't want to be this guy anymore. And then it's really cracked me open once I started your program. It's just, it's crazy. I can't honestly can't recognize that person who I was before. Like I can't honestly. I've got so many stories that I honestly can't even believe that I'd done that stuff, like like the stupidest stuff, and thinking now I'm like, yeah, just so many things, so many things. I'm just I can't believe I'll do that and I can't believe that it's me.
Speaker 2:All right when you start like sort of becoming aware and you're like all these things, like I think as well, and people will be like, oh, I don't regret anything.
Speaker 1:Whatever is my game?
Speaker 2:I got heaps of regrets, Like and it's okay that, like you know, because all those greats have made me like who I am now but of course there's like things that I regret and I actually own those and I take them on as responsibility for lessons Instead of just being like no, you know not to do them again. Yeah, because we can't, like I had to fuck up in every single way, shape or form, ever, so that I could learn something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like I definitely had to learn the hard way every time, but it is like the main things that you think that I'd be regretful for. I'm not it's, it's just like some little acts that were really stupid, but the main things I, like I said, I think I had to do them to get to the person I was today. But I do also always think I've wasted a lot of time. And who would have much further? Would I be ahead if I'd done this? But I'm so I'm in love with the journey now that I don't like I don't care, I'm like I'm in it now, like I'm not that person. Now I'm not who I was, I am who I am right now.
Speaker 1:Do you feel grateful? Absolutely so many I never even thought knew what grateful was really. Like I knew what the word was but I'd never felt it or I'd never even sat down and just thought about what it was. And that was when I was in Nepal. Like there was moments every single day where I was like I'm so grateful to Just be here and witness this and I'm so grateful that I'm not the porter, because, yeah, just imagine, if that was our life.
Speaker 1:If you were, your job was to carry someone else's bag up mountains every day and get paid the smallest amount. So these people don't even have lives. So as soon as they get back, they're back on the road again. And then, like I was speaking to them and like they can't have girlfriends, they can't really have, they don't really have a social life and stuff. And we took these guys out and we were like shouting them like alcohol, shouting them food. We bought them clothes and they were literally like, when we went out with them, like they said that they literally had the best night of their lives. And then they have like these little porter hearts where we have.
Speaker 1:So we have dinner in the tea houses and they have dinner in the porter house. This is like a cheaper accommodation for them and they literally just sleep on the floor and stuff. And they took us in there and they like made us meals and stuff and they were giving us like their home brew and all this stuff like that. And we were like we'll just shout at everyone and it was the coolest night and only one person there spoke English and there was like seven people in there.
Speaker 1:It was me and my friend and somehow we spent like three or four hours with them like laughing and somehow communicating with them, and in the morning I was like how did we speak to them? But I was like I had the sickest night but I could barely even speak to them. It was weird. And then after that, when we got back out, so we had a porter and a guide of the guide, sister dude that organizes everything and he just like walks with you. He took us to his parents house and he's got his mom to like make us a meal and stuff and they'll give him this home brew and we'll smoke and weed in his bedroom and stuff.
Speaker 2:It was cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was just so. Yeah, like that was so grateful to have asked, but it just made me feel so great which I don't know if it's good or bad but made me so grateful that I don't have their life. I believe that I grew up in a in our country. Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I believe like a lot of what you obtain is like the level of what you believe that you're worth as well, and that like can prevent you as well. Like for me, because I like I find myself, every time I go to Bali or a third world country, so much empathy for people. I don't have our lifestyle, even though when you go to Bali it's like quite common that they're like they think we're dumb, they're like these white people concerned about all these things and all these decisions, stuff, like we live in a good life every day. But just to my perspective on my, yeah, like the level of worth that we have is so important, because then everyone has their place.
Speaker 1:Like it's like that when we went to.
Speaker 2:Japan, which recently into Japanese culture. And it doesn't matter what job they were doing, everyone was doing it as best as possible, with a slip sweep in the streets or like managing something, like everyone was just like working the hardest, had so much pride in their work and I was like wow.
Speaker 1:We definitely don't have that in Australia. I don't think, because why is that? Because we're overprivileged, maybe, yes. So it's crazy. We have way too much opportunity, but you think they have that over there as well? But yeah, it's definitely. There's a lot of people here that don't realize the opportunity that we have.
Speaker 2:It's nuts. I was talking to this week. I was speaking to a Brazilian billionaire and he was like when I first moved to Australia and he was like 19, 20 years old, he bought two houses. And he said I bought two houses because you guys only have a 20% deposit to buy that, get a house. And he talked to a count and the count's like why do you have two houses? You're like 20 years old and he's like because they let me buy them. I just worked my ass off and just started buying fucking houses. And he was like it's nuts, because in Brazil it's so much harder to get land or property. He was like what? This is a bargain, are you serious? And then, like we complain about everything. It's nuts. And what I think is there's like not enough. Initiation is not enough. Like you know role models or places that we can go to learn things, which is why, like, creators set the standard community so we could do like, like retreats and the online stuff to like bridge that gap.
Speaker 1:It's so crazy. How did we turn the tables here? But how did? How did you? When was? What was your first personal development experience? Because it's absolutely crazy what you've built and I would have never thought in a million years that I would have done something like this and it would change my life for the better. And so what was the first thing that you done? Did you do a course, or did you just speak to someone, or what did you do?
Speaker 2:No, but I just want to mention like you, when you're at the next level retreat, like at the end, like your face, you look like 10 years younger. You just like massive smile and like I swear he's never going to get rid of that thing. It looks like he haven't. I'm happy with that.
Speaker 1:A lot of people do. That's actually. Let me say something first. Since probably the last year or so, I used to.
Speaker 1:I used to be like a really angry, negative person and I think that I got that from my dad. I'm very similar to my dad in a lot of ways and I've tried to. I use my parents more as a not what to be than what to be like, which is sort of sad. But he's sort of like really even happy being angry and being in that thing, and I sort of took that on as well and I used to. If you'd asked me like two years ago, I'd be sort of like a sour, sort of angry person and I'd have to really try to be happy and positive. And I'd knew I would have told you that I liked being angry, like it felt good. And now the amount of times that like that I would like I go on dates or whatever and girls are like you're always smiling, like you never stop smiling and I'm like it's like literally makes me happy just thinking about it, because I'm like that's that never happened before. It's never happened before. That is crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, painted a smile on your face is never coming yeah.
Speaker 2:I can love that, like my first personal development experience was, honestly, it was just like competing in a bodybuilding show, like I did like a lot of singing and dancing, acting as a kid. So we used to do with these theater, these like improv improvisation exercises that we would do in the class, and I'd always try to be like in a bit of the class, come out and grab all the intention, like whatever, and I had a blast doing it. I used to think the adults were crazy, because adults would just sit there and like do nothing and we do this weird shit in front of people. Because I was like trained as a kid I didn't like give a shit. You know really what other people thought of when I was doing anything. And like I had, I felt like I had my mom, my dad, school, government, uni be like, do, be like this, not, is it? It's not even just like like, do do these things because you can like do whatever you want, but they're like be like this.
Speaker 2:In terms of a person, I was like no, I really want to do this.
Speaker 2:I had to like break these things from my mom, break these things from my dad, to be like no, I just want to do this and eventually it was, like you know, I had a like five or six bad years and it was like start competing in bodybuilding shows and for me I had to get like routine on point, diet on point, purpose, on point, sleep on the right time. And when I was doing this, I had a friend who's just like really young. When I was like I'm still at uni, still working in a surf store, he was like read this book. And I was just how do we in friends and influence people? And I listened to it and read it at the same time on YouTube and remember just like going through, and I had this moment afterwards. I was walking through a shopping center and I was just like boom. I looked around, I was like, oh my goodness, there was like so many people here, everyone's buying stuff and, regardless of whatever we want to do, we got to do it.
Speaker 2:And it feels like everyone was asleep and I was the only person who was awake and I was like holy shit, and then I just got like I dig to learning, like that was the one book and then it was thinking grow rich, and then it was the next one, then it was the next one, and then I did Jordan Peterson's programs.
Speaker 2:From Jordan's Peterson's programs, I invested in like a couple of other small things, started learning how to like build websites and create my own things, and then I just like read some really difficult books and then I went to some like pretty intense personal development workshops and changed me forever and like a lot of my clients helped me as well. Like when I was younger, like my first client was a 22 year old or 21 year old multimillionaire. So I had to like sort of change all of my concepts of how I'm going to approach this person, how do I talk to this person, how do I do these things, how do I coach them. I learned so much such a short period of time and I've been like really good friends with Glenn and some other coaches and mentors in this space and we just go back and forth and mentor each other. That's one of the.
Speaker 2:It just didn't stop me, Just like kept growing and growing and then what I was learning I was using with my clients and it worked.
Speaker 1:Because it worked, I'm like let's just replicate this that's one of the craziest things about what you've built that now that you have built this and you get all walks of life coming into your community that you've learned so much of, every single person has something to offer that comes into your community. If they're willing to come into your community, they obviously have something to offer you and obviously you have a lot to offer them. But you can learn off every single person that comes in.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that's why I have so much gratitude towards the men Like so much, even like you, just like. I've learned so much from you, In particular, from like like everything that you've done and how you've grown and how you've just like absolutely kicked us. You're a pretty nuts man when you're, like you know, coaching or mentoring people and you see someone like you were in the position you were at, was like you know, you were still in your like you were doing your business right, but you weren't like 100% satisfied with what you were doing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then and then you started, like for lack of better words getting your act together with business. You got clear on your purpose. I want to hear about the heart cracking open bits for you. I want to hear, like how that actually happened, like the stories for how that happened.
Speaker 2:But just seeing how you do that, it's like a great reminder that whenever I hear anything about you, whatever you're doing now, it's like that healthy competition, like fuck, I better get a fucking firecracker up my ass. Louis just bought fucking motocross track in Bali like clump, and everything like that is fucking so motivating, like it's so motivating. So yeah, it's not only do you learn stuff, but it also like keeps you on the path as well. But I do believe that's important of community right, because if you have all those people around you and who you surround yourself with, you identify yourself with. You'd know this from. If you hang around drug addicts, you start identifying yourself I'm a druggy. You hang around people that are doing extraordinary things, you're like, well, I'm an extraordinary person. So yeah, fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:I'd like to share one little thing. That was pretty, pretty huge for me. That and then. So when I did the hot seat, obviously you know what happened because you were there. But when I did the hot seat, which just you have to describe- a hot seat.
Speaker 2:Okay, so when you're in the community you have the opportunity to do a hot seat.
Speaker 1:So you do a zoom call and as many people in the community want to, they can join it. And there's one person that pretty much just get grilled about all the things that they're weak, all their weaknesses and all their strengths, and then they just keep grilling you and grilling you and grilling you until you pretty much crack. And I'd probably done it for like 45 minutes and we'd sort of just been like fucking around, not much would really happen. And then someone just said something I can't remember who said it and then I just come to the realization that I didn't love myself and I pretty much hated myself just from all the from all over the years. I just joked about me being a piece of shit and my friends jokingly calling me a piece of shit and we call each other pieces of shit. And then I just broke down crying and was like just the first realization that I Did not love myself and I thought that I'd love myself my whole life. I just I thought that I'd lived an awesome life and I'd I Thought I was doing really well and I realized that I that was like a huge thing that I needed to get over, and then the next day I Wanted to count how many times I called myself a piece of shit in one day. And then, before I even finished work, it was like 30 or 40 times just in my mind, just like something stupid would have any lucky piece of shit in my mind. And then I was like holy shit, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1:And then, ever since then, I've like I just don't do it, like if I, if I do do it, I pull myself on at once and it might happen like once or twice a week now, and Not only that. And then when I did the, and that also came into like I didn't have the belief in myself. That also stemmed into I didn't have the belief in myself either to do all the little things. And then I Don't know if I think it was around that time as well yeah, it would have been and I realized that I didn't.
Speaker 1:That was when I was like I don't know what I want to do for my job because I don't want to continue bricklaying. But what can I do right now? And the thing that I can do right now is I can make my job work for me really. So I was. I was doing like big commercial stuff and I had like a big crew on and then I was like I hate this too stressful, so I completely downsized and just started building like custom stuff, like fireplaces and Seating areas, doing concrete benchtops, just like stuff that I've really enjoyed doing, and that's what I actually had no idea about. I feel faked it till I make it, until I made it like the first, like huge I'm like I'd lie, and I was like I've done heaps of these and Literally made every mistake under the Sun.
Speaker 1:But now I'm like you probably yeah yeah, like I'm probably one of the only person on the Gold Coast that Specializes in this stuff now, and not only that, I've got way smaller hours, like I literally tried to work six hours a day, if I can. And not only that, I only have to have one person working for me. And not only that before I was when I'm most of time, I was just working by myself and I started listening to your podcast, like Dior over CEO, all these other stuff, and I was founding that I could, instead of rushing around on the phone all day, I could literally learn all day, all day. I was just listening to podcast, audio books, just learning all day, every day, and I'd never I'd never done that before either. So the amount of Knowledge that I've learned over the last 18 months is just like been overwhelming.
Speaker 2:Dude, that's so sick, and what are the moments that you had there that you think like really got you to expand from the inside?
Speaker 1:out. Well, when I was at Tony Robbins as you were there, it was the. I Don't know exactly what the day was called. It was the self-belief. I think it was the self-belief one where they fully like it was like a roller coaster, how they like Pretty much to tell you to call yourself a piece of shit and they like made all the music like real hectic yeah they bring it out and make you say fuck you that version yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they'll bring in a version out of you that the you sort of thought you was. Now I'm like, oh, tell yourself that you can't believe this and all that. And then all of a sudden they're just like now, tell that person to fucking. They change the music. And it was all hectic. And they're like you are not that person. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:But just over the whole day I got a huge Surge of self-belief and just coming out of that I realized that I could literally do whatever I wanted in life.
Speaker 1:All I have to do is just put my mind to it. And I'm like I'm just gonna do is just put my mind to it and literally just do something. I just signed huge that I've went lately, especially just getting this track going like I Didn't exactly have all the belief in the world, but I knew that I wanted to do it and all I knew that I had to do is just do, just do something, just do something. And I just said all I got to do is just go there and do something. And then I I just kept ticking things off the list and then all of a sudden it was just there and I was like Holy shit, I don't even know how I did it, I was like it was just, but yeah, just ticking things off the list, the small things, the tiny little things, and then they all just added up and now, now it's like, now it's happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like Like a mindset that I like breaking down, for that is just called next action steps, and you've explained it like three times and like what I do is if it's like any certain goal that you want to have. Like, let's say it's I want to go travel to America. So, like, what's the next action step? Well, one from traveling to Maris. I got to get on a plane, okay. Well, how do I get on a plane? Well, I got to buy a ticket. Okay, how do I buy a ticket? I'm gonna go on a website and look at where the tickets are. Okay, how do I go on a website? Go the ticket. I got to get on my phone. Okay, how do I get on my phone? I pull my phone out of my pocket, do that?
Speaker 1:So I was literally the most.
Speaker 2:Literally, and then that's like the catalyst that creates no, a snowball. And it's like it's really cool when you understand, like your vision and your purpose and where you want to like be and what it is, and then just like breaking it down All the way to the next action step. So if anyone's listening, they're like stuck or confused or whatever, like I've got a goal. It's like you know what's your next action step.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you've really actually got to want to do it like, yeah, you've got to want to do it.
Speaker 1:It's meeting a desire because yeah, there is so many things that I've tried and I've done half-assed because I Thought that I might want to do it but I didn't actually want to do it. And that's what I've grown up. I've, like, traveled the world and all my friends are like how do you do it? How do you do it, how do you afford to do that? How do you only work six months of the year and then travel? And I'm like, because I'm willing to spend every cent that I have to go do that and come back and be broke and do it again. And Most people always want this cushion of money To sit there and they're like, oh, what if this or what if this? I'm like I have the best time of my life when I'm traveling, so that's just what I want to do. And but it also taught me that I could be bankrupt. I could go to. I've been to zero.
Speaker 2:Hundreds of times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, having zero dollars in my bank account doesn't matter shit, but now also know that I can get 10 to 50k back in a matter of months, so it literally does not worry me in the slaughter. So now this one man like I'm To get the money that I need to redo this track. I was gonna get investors, but I was like you know what? I'm just gonna fucking risk my whole out, I'm gonna refinance my house and just I'm doing it myself. Okay, I'm like I can Worst worse after selling my house and I'm like I'll get another one who gives a shit.
Speaker 1:Like and I told myself I'm like 30s now I'm still young like, if I want to do it, the next five to ten years is when to take huge risks. So I need to do it now. I spent all my 20s partying, not giving a shit, and I'm sort of glad I glad I did that. I'm glad I got that out of the way, because now I know I'm not gonna try a new drug when I'm 35 and get addicted to it, or I'm gonna try something and I'll get hooked, or whatever. I know that that part of my life is completely gone out of the picture.
Speaker 2:All those vices are gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the vices are completely gone, even alcohol now. Like Every time I get drunk now it's just like Chipping that tiny little bit of the log away and one day it's just gonna chip too. Fine, I'm not drinking ever again.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm not drinking ever again for a while. I think I didn't drink for like two and a half years, and now I've just like completely healed my relationship with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which is like I have a pretty good relationship with it now. But it's just, I Just don't think. I Just I think, I just want to be sober.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and not only that. I'm enough like that many times.
Speaker 1:You're like I just don't get it. And also my dad's like a bit of an alcoholic and Every time I see him drunk it I'm really like embarrassed and like feel sorry for him and like it literally happened last night out of family dinner and it was smashed and I Didn't even want to speak to him and like I love my dad and it sucks. I get sad and he thinks that he's too old to change and all this stuff. And I think that's another huge reason why I want to just stop to, Because I have my parents have changed a lot since I've started doing the personal development and crazy is it when you do.
Speaker 2:When you start doing it, everyone who's really close to you starts changing as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wild hate and I hope that if I completely stop, it's gonna show him that he can stop and that it's all, just that it's possible and just to be like his role model nearly pretty much, because there's been lots of other things that they've. They've Even just my dad just been able to speak to me about certain things now like he used to never. He would have never told the kids that he loved him or anything. And now, like every time I speak to him like I give him a hug now and I say I love you and when did you get that out of him?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I just. I just started when did you do it like? What was the thing that made you be like? You haven't tell my fucking dad that I love him.
Speaker 1:No, well, it always. He'd always it always be a drunk thing. So it it always happened, but it always it was always drunk. So and I remember saying to him once when I was drunk no, he was drunk and I wasn't drunk and I said I Need you to start saying this stuff when you're sober, because it doesn't mean anything when you're drunk. And and like because when you get drunk you'd be like really like I love you, he's like you're my boy, he's like all that, all that stuff comes down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm like it means nothing. And Then I think I can't remember pinpoint, exactly when it was, but after that it just slowly started Sinking in for him and he just started opening up a little bit more. And, yeah, he started opening up and I started saying things to him and then that allowed him to create space for him to say some things as well and, to be honest, I sent them what was that? The strength and the weakness things. I wanted to do that with my parents.
Speaker 2:And there's an exercise we have where it's like you message the five people closest to you like what are my strengths and weaknesses, and they tell you. That's pretty confronting.
Speaker 1:So well I wanted my mom and dad to do that without me. And I sent them the message and mom's like dad's not going to do it. And then I said what about if I do it with you and all three of us will do it? And then this was just before I went to Canada at the start of the year. I was like when I get back we're going to do it. And then when I got back I mentioned it and dad just kept pushing it off. I ended up doing it with mom and then me and mom had like a. We had a really special moment and we also sort of come to the realization that we needed to help dad as well, because it also makes me sad that mom's going to deal with that shit as well, because she's she doesn't drink or anything like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really want to. I really think that I can help them just by setting the example, and that's a huge thing that you have done for me as well, Like you don't only run this company and this, this community, but you set the standard for everyone, because that's helping me in my business as well, because I used to just be one of those people that I would like to rock up, tell everyone hurry up, shut the fuck up, I've done a thousand, this been done, and then be there for two hours and leave. You know what I mean. And sometimes I'd be like, oh, I've got other jobs to do and I'll just be going home to smoke a joint or whatever. You know what I mean. I wouldn't. I'd be literally doing the worst thing that I could do. And now I know that, like I have to, I have to set the example of my, my work is I'm going to get any better unless I set the example. So now I will try to be the hardest worker at work.
Speaker 2:Thank you for proud of yourself. You feel good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and like now I just I've had a friend started working with me and he hasn't done any of the shit that I do now and he's been a brickie his whole life. He's the dude that I started the apprenticeship with and he's like he's loving life now because, he's doing all this new stuff.
Speaker 1:It's like he's like learning all this new stuff every day and it's like enjoyable for me. It's like this is the first time that I've been going to work in years and I'm actually like enjoying it. I'm doing all this new stuff, and not only that. I've like set the standard of the work pace and what we're doing. And not only that he sees, cause he's living with me now as well, till the end of the year, and he sees that I come home we're ain't done Like I was sitting in the laptop for an hour or two as well, like every night, like doing quotes and all that stuff. And it's good to see that. It's good to be recognized that the hard works getting paid off to yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's like a validation, as I mentioned before. It's like your identity gets validated by who you're around, and it's like when people like you know validate you you're a hard worker and you're a crush on it and you get shit done that feels so good, especially when you love what you're doing. Cause it's one thing that, like, I want to eliminate through working with men, there's like a bit of a like. A like that contributes to my purpose is like making tradi work cool again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's a toxic place when I was doing it and I was working for my dad. I fucking hate it. I remember I almost beat the shit out of this trade, but I didn't, cause he was like 15 years old of me, I was like 16 and like all I want to do is punch him in the face. You know those moments when you get so close and then you just freeze and you're like oh, oh, oh, like you stop yourself yeah, Cause it was my dad's company but he fucking like scratched his ass and that wiped it under my nose, yeah, and I was like what the fuck? And I told my dad you know what he did.
Speaker 1:Nothing.
Speaker 2:Nothing, absolutely fucking nothing.
Speaker 2:It was then suck it up for my ideal for masculinity. It's like disintegrated. I was like fuck man of shit. They don't know fucking anything, so they're so dumb and hopeless so and I'm like fuck that man. Like, especially like when you're working with your friends, you guys are having so much fun, you're learning all these new skills and it's like every single day there's something new and there's a challenge of overcoming, together with like camaraderie and like hanging out with your bro, like out doing shit, like that's so fun and it doesn't have to be an excuse, it's just a slight culture shift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now I actually enjoy going to work. I'm not only that like it's sort of like now the motocross thing, like it's not like even such a rush anymore, because I'm happy doing them. I'm doing them, I'm like it's just cruising. Now. I'm like when things happen, it happens before, where it was like I need to get out of this job, what am I? And I was freaking out because I didn't know what I wanted to do. Yeah, but there's. Yeah, I just lost my train of thought again. But what were we talking about?
Speaker 2:just before that we were talking about, like trading culture, shifting it. Now you like doing what you're doing, and before you didn't, and now you're working with.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure, but I also see that. Yeah, I've seen that Tyler started that podcast as well about talking about all that stuff which is awesome as well.
Speaker 2:So cool.
Speaker 1:Shout out to him for that.
Speaker 2:No, no, just trying to remove that trading culture.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I just yeah, sorry, I just remembered what I was going to think I was like. Now I still I have sort of removed myself from all these toxic people but I'm still find it hard to find connection with new people that give me value and actually continue the friendship. So I don't know, I really like, now that I've moved up, I really like being alone. My whole life. I was like accumulating all of these friends and then I got to a point I was like I don't even want any of them. And then and now I like I do have some good people, like some of the people I've met in the community and a few other people, but and like I will see them every now and then. But I find it hard to get out of my comfort zone and go to meet new people now because I'm so comfortable being by myself.
Speaker 2:We're doing a thing in a couple of weeks. Come to it. What's the thing? We just want to catch up. We're always going to Tim's yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that's. He's one of the people that I've been hanging out with, but, yeah, other things.
Speaker 2:you only need a few, though, yeah exactly Like the whole reason, like a lot of theirs Frederick needs to talk about it and the reason you get in relationships and reason that you become friends with someone is to confirm your beliefs about yourself, which comes down to the identity.
Speaker 2:Right, I want to hang out with you because you confirm these things about me. But then what happens is it can be quite manipulative, because you can put yourself or frame yourself in a position where people confirm things about yourself that you want to believe about yourself that aren't true, yeah Right, so that's how we set ourselves up to basically have friends that don't really serve us or make us feel unhappy or whatever it is, because it's like all these beliefs that we had about ourselves are a bit shit, yeah Right, or they're false for us because we've convinced everyone else that we're something. Boom. Now we've got the mask and it's hard to remove. So when we're around the right people who confirm the right beliefs around ourselves, who don't by smoke up or arson you can also see through our shit, then it's like awesome. A couple of those is way more important than all these other people confirming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what lives about yourself.
Speaker 1:I just just made me think about something which is could possibly be some sort of negative right now, but I think that I nearly even think that I've distanced myself, even away from even people like Tim, because I don't distance myself like I catch up with him. Yeah, not distanced myself because I do love him, but when people have, I feel that they have more. I don't know, like they have something to offer. I feel like they're amusing them. Oh yeah, like just say, just even say, if I, like we just started becoming really good friends, I'd feel like I'm using you, even though you, even though we're just friends, do you want to get into that or not?
Speaker 2:real quick.
Speaker 1:Oh, I've just started thinking about it, so I would like to get your opinion on it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that's like you know I'd mentioned beforehand, like your beliefs. For me, what you get is how much like how worthy that you think you are. So I was like for you why don't you think you're worthy enough to have friends who can really help you, to inspire you?
Speaker 1:I'm sure I think it's just different. I've always been. Also, I don't want to blow smoke in my ass, but I feel like I've always been one of the people to be the giver not necessarily the giver, the person that someone will come to to ask for things and stuff like that, and I don't know, I'd feel guilty asking to say to him, for example, I feel guilty asking him for something.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So when was the first time that you like experienced that guilt or shame and had to shut it off?
Speaker 1:There's been. Well, since I've moved to Queensland, there's been a few people that I've met that have probably I don't know been like made probably more successful than me, or in my eyes, I don't even know why. I think that because when I think that I'm like I don't want their life, I really don't know.
Speaker 2:I have a bit of an idea. When was the very first time you experienced that?
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think I could say, I literally just thought, literally just thought of that, just then, as you were saying it, because I was just asked, I was like why do I do that? And then I was like, I think, because I think I'm guilty, I feel guilty that I'm using that person.
Speaker 2:When did you use people?
Speaker 1:Well, I've used people my whole whole life right.
Speaker 2:So Do you think that that would have influenced? If you've used people your whole entire life? Do you think that that has influenced your ability to receive?
Speaker 1:possibly now that, growing up Doing what I was doing when I was younger, everything's just revolved around using people. What can you get out of this person to get more money? What can you get out of this person to get something valuable? And, but not, but. The thing is, none of my friends have ever been like that, but but you were.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was right, but you were. When was the last time you ever like properly received something from someone that was just unconditional? I Don't like receiving that is something huge.
Speaker 1:I don't like receiving at all. I don't usually Take things.
Speaker 2:Why? Why don't you like receiving? Like, because if I was to give you a gift and I put so much time and effort and thought into it, I'd feel guilty because I hadn't gotten you something. Yeah right, but then if you did that, that'd be offensive to me. So I know I just wanted to give you this, this gift. So fuck you for not receiving it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just never looked at it like that really right so. Like and not everybody is Thinks the way that you do. I feel like I've grown up with a lot of more selfish people that would. That's sort of given me that mentality, that. But, like I said, the people that I'm hanging out with now that I'm hanging out with I'm sure probably think the same as that which I just needed. I'm shift, really, we don't need to do anything really.
Speaker 2:It's just in terms of like receiving is just like it's your capacity to get open and surrender. It's something that you haven't been able to do, and usually, when it comes to receiving and not feeling guilty, usually it's like a trust thing. Yeah, I would think, like you know, or I have to get this person something Otherwise, I owe them a favor.
Speaker 2:I've got to do this thing, or I'm in that person's debt and shoes, because that's how it always was, or tip for tap, tip for that, tip for that, yeah. So I have an experience, like you know, some real, genuine, open, like Love from someone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's interesting because receiving is a gift my two best friends actually do. They do buy me shit randomly, but yeah, but doesn't have to be buying you something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, my two best friends, they do do that, but it's always been that we've been friends since start a high school.
Speaker 1:They're different, but it's more so than new people letting people in.
Speaker 2:Oh, interesting, new people letting people in because, like trust, heart open, do you find you unconsciously can pay yourself to other people or size people up?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I can feel myself to every single person but I'm, and like competitively as well, like I'm super competitive, like soon as anybody is good at something, I'm like I want to be better than the matter.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, you can pay yourself, and then that's they again. That comes down to either well, if I'm not as good as this person, then I'm not worth this, or I'm not good enough to receive this. I'm definitely getting better because I was a huge thing.
Speaker 1:When I'd come to realization about motocross and stuff that I was like not gonna Be a pro, I'm not gonna make money from it, I felt like a Real shit Can't. Yeah, failure. Yeah, I did. I felt and I was just I was nearly embarrassed to do things like after that. And then I stopped riding for ages and then I realized that that was like a tantrum. Yeah, it was the thing that I'd love to do the most and I was like what'd be stupid not to Continue doing this. Well, what I would do just from right here, if you want to work and he shouldn't have to work on this- but it's great like self-awareness, it's just like sort of question around.
Speaker 2:You know those key moments. One thing that, like when I was listening for you, was your very first boss who put heaps of shit on you.
Speaker 2:He just used you and Used you and everyone else right, used everyone around you, then you adapted those traits. So I'm assuming like either might have tried to do that, then you adapted those traits. So I'm assuming like either might have tried to give or do something back in the day. Then it like you got rejected and then you tried really hard or something like motocross. Whenever you try really hard or something and then failed. So when you think about like worthiness, when things come up like someone does something really nice, for you like does something nice, not necessarily give you something, because you can do something nice to give to someone.
Speaker 2:You can give a hug to someone, which is really nice. You can say something and someone have to receive it's all these different things you got to receive and so has this trigger of being like, oh, I don't deserve this.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna fail if I have this. I'm not good enough for this. Oops, someone's gonna shut me down. Oops, I was gonna reject me. Oh, I'm going to create a friendship from someone like, oh, like, oh, this person saying this to me, but I feel so guilty about them saying this because I've always used them. Yeah right, always use this person. Now they're doing something nice me. They don't even know that I'm still using them, fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean guilt and shame, can so around your mind like that.
Speaker 1:So yeah, just question that and huge things as well, like growing up, there was like If you were to do something Nice to someone, you'd want them to know that it was you as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you do it to get something back. Yeah, it's not unconditional.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was like a huge thing Growing up.
Speaker 2:It's crazy because, like, moving forward from that, like you can develop some really good friendships and keep friendships In your life in terms of like feeling deserved and worthy of them, that which can bring you so much joy, even, especially with new people. As one thing that I find with men in particular Is they like find it real difficult to make new friendships. Yeah, because it's how we identify ourselves in the group. It's like, okay, there's a new hierarchy here which is a little bit scary.
Speaker 2:What are, what are the hierarchies within the hierarchy? It could be like a certain group of friends, let's say, hang up, group of volleyball. This is new. The baby, fuck this. We've gone in this. This is Valuable hierarchy now that I have to climb. But doesn't matter who you hang out with, like whatever group of friends, there's certain hierarchies in there. Yeah, if you can pay yourself to those hierarchies, I'm gonna get a holy shit and you don't have to climb them. Yeah, but there's some if you choose to do and see how fun it is, because those challenges are sometimes so great to get in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it is all on you. Most of those people Couldn't give two shits whether you you're good or not. They like, if you're a good person, that is happy to be your friend and they're just happy that you're there. Really. And Another thing that I wanted to touch on, which I just thought of as well, which I struggled with when, after I got back from Nepal, I felt I Can because the food was terrible. If you can't eat meat over there because everything's carried in by yaks and obviously yaks don't have refrigerators on them, so everything goes off and spoiled, so you eat a vegetarian diet there, main dishes called delba, which is like like curried potatoes and like lentil soup and stuff, and we've forbidden that word in the house. Now.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't ever want to have that ever again. But when I got back especially when to Bali even like Recently I've been I just completely Overindulged hard and I found my diet has been absolutely terrible Since then, which has been like after doing something like that I found it really hard to get back into routine. I was just feeling lazy and then like I was telling myself that it was okay because I'd just done something so hectic and then I was just getting super lazy and I feel like, honestly, I've nearly thought about coming back into the after the community because I was like I was so Just down, really down, after it.
Speaker 1:My men. Yes, I reckon I was down. I was literally down. I had like a high from like going to Bali and getting the motor cross track. We're like even like. After that, when I got back, I was just like they're real man, I want to sit at home and do nothing.
Speaker 2:Cake dude. The most depressed. Some of the most depressing moments I've ever had in my life is after our next level retreat, is After the very first like workshop that I did for the guys and has been after my bodybuilding competitions the worst I've ever felt because there was such harm moments and so crazy because I was so expansive.
Speaker 2:It's sort of like you know, if you go to like the gym and you train really hard and you get doms the next day when you're stretching and expanding your spirit, it's the same thing. So after the next, next level retreats we're doing an early Feb I'm going to Dubai for a week. I'm just fucking ride the high, yeah, ride the high, but then also like chill from the lows and just like nourish myself, cuz like you know, as like when we facilitating it, like we put everything into that thing and afterwards I was just like For like a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was suppose you were facilitating, you weren't. I guess you were part of it, but you weren't yes, I was not.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna go away for like, for like a week, just to like recharge for everything. Yeah, that's one. And then obviously, yeah, um, one thing I know like I'm not like a guy expert or anything, but I've got some basic knowledge. You just when bacteria changes in your stomach and then you're gonna like change it back, like switching diets like just takes a whole lot of energy because it's like your body gets accustomed to one and then it's got to change again accustomed to nothing. You know Every time that I've switched diet, like bodybuilding or whatever, to fuck me up, as one time I just started eating a lentil pasta because I was like, oh, like, I just want to stay away from gluten for a while, cuz it wasn't made me feel that good, so I started smashing lentil pasta. So it's like a kilo of lentil pasta a day.
Speaker 1:Because I eat a lot yeah.
Speaker 2:I got so clogged up, bro, like I got so clogged up, I just started having this wind pain in my stomach that wouldn't come out. It wasn't like it's not like heaps of winter. I think it was like a fun, like a maniac, but it was some of the worst. I just wake up in the middle of the night at 3 am Because, apparently, from massive fire.
Speaker 1:No, not Matt.
Speaker 2:I'm not in fart, just, oh pain I, just, I literally fall out my bed and start crying and yelling yeah, cuz what happens is your body tries to dump, like bio or something at 3 am In terms of a body clock in the middle of the night. It goes boom, yeah, and because, like dumps by lane, what happens is it tries to move through your body and nothing could move and I was like, oh my god, so I can never again.
Speaker 2:Am I switching like to do, like a crazy try to move through your body like Like, just like what you've eaten, like bile, like dumps into your stomach or whatever it goes in, and then like from whatever. Or wouldn't that be like a city can like?
Speaker 2:yeah, was I had a little heartburn. Yeah, I was experiencing heaps of heartburn at the time and like it dumps to try to help shit move through and like digest, but nothing happens, yeah, so it was not to end up eating like Just a massive surf of bentonite clay and it worked. Fix me up. What the hell is that bentonite clay? It's kind of like mud, bro. It's literally just clay.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's just dirt. Just hate some fucking dirt and fix. I run up my naturopath friend. He's like why level natural preference is like yeah, bro, just put some fucking clients and water and drink it, you'll be sweet. I'm not drunk at all sweet.
Speaker 1:I was like what the hell dude yeah just noose and wild shit.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. But yeah, if anyone meant anyone who's listening, I like to like, challenge them, like from like the podcast. Have you got a challenge for anyone who's listening to this? If you'd like to challenge them that they could take action on today?
Speaker 1:I Think this was something that I've gone through. Just say, even for one week, distance yourself from your friends, your family, whatever, and just do you for one week and Then right down at the end of the week what, everything that you've done and what you prioritize, and then you'll see that what you genuinely like to do.
Speaker 2:I Love that so much. We've ever had that because that's super original, and fate because you have your own podcast as well. When you're running a few things, where can people find you? Oh?
Speaker 1:I'm actually not doing that anymore. That was one of those things that I tried and I was like it's not for me, which I've found my thing now, which is awesome, but I do have Instagram. I don't even really care about giving that out. But we got unknown Louis guys and never gonna be able to find him but when I open the motocross track, I will come back and I will plug the shit out of that.
Speaker 2:Okay, sounds good, bro. So, man, just thank you for being you. Thank you for, like you know, coming into the community and making, like such a big change and like Taking all the little steps and the huge steps, getting really clear on your purpose and taking action, leading by example and setting these standard in your own life as well. Man, it means a lot to me, it's I find it so powerful that you're out there doing that and it like makes my purpose and my vision come true, like here in your story. So, thanks so much, man.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you as well, because without you, I don't think I would be in the position that I am now.
Speaker 2:Okay, awesome.