Have you ever found yourself wondering how your past experiences and relationships shape your ego and influence your decision-making? In our enlightening chat with Riva, we unravel this and much more, laying bare the often veiled role of fear in decision-making, and the transformative power of stepping out of our comfort zones. We tackle the challenges of ADHD, the significance of personal reflection in business, and how facing our fears can lead to personal growth and a booming personal brand.
Join us as we unfold Riva's inspiring tale of triumph over ego, enriched with his insightful reflections on self-empowerment and the hurdles of entrepreneurship. We delve into the art of overcoming obstacles, investing in personal development, and the entrepreneur's journey. Discussion on the power of tough conversations underlines the necessity of transparency and effective communication in personal and professional relationships. Listen as Riva shares his thrilling nomination for the Melbourne 2022 Entrepreneurship Awards, an event that spurred a profound realization about his self-worth.
To top it off, we engage in a unique exercise of asking five close people about five strengths and weaknesses, a practice that promises to spark personal and professional growth. We also scrutinize how a robust ego can be both a catalyst and a roadblock in business. This captivating episode is laden with insights and lessons on how our egos, influenced by our past, can shape our future. So why not allow Riva’s journey and our profound discussion guide you to better understand your ego, overcome fear, and step into a more empowered version of yourself.
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Have you ever found yourself wondering how your past experiences and relationships shape your ego and influence your decision-making? In our enlightening chat with Riva, we unravel this and much more, laying bare the often veiled role of fear in decision-making, and the transformative power of stepping out of our comfort zones. We tackle the challenges of ADHD, the significance of personal reflection in business, and how facing our fears can lead to personal growth and a booming personal brand.
Join us as we unfold Riva's inspiring tale of triumph over ego, enriched with his insightful reflections on self-empowerment and the hurdles of entrepreneurship. We delve into the art of overcoming obstacles, investing in personal development, and the entrepreneur's journey. Discussion on the power of tough conversations underlines the necessity of transparency and effective communication in personal and professional relationships. Listen as Riva shares his thrilling nomination for the Melbourne 2022 Entrepreneurship Awards, an event that spurred a profound realization about his self-worth.
To top it off, we engage in a unique exercise of asking five close people about five strengths and weaknesses, a practice that promises to spark personal and professional growth. We also scrutinize how a robust ego can be both a catalyst and a roadblock in business. This captivating episode is laden with insights and lessons on how our egos, influenced by our past, can shape our future. So why not allow Riva’s journey and our profound discussion guide you to better understand your ego, overcome fear, and step into a more empowered version of yourself.
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How do I lead with that, knowing that your ego can still pull you into that same space?
Speaker 2:Riva, thanks for coming on to the show. What have you been learning recently which has been blowing your mind?
Speaker 1:I can tell you something that's absolutely blown my fucking mind recently, bro.
Speaker 2:You ready for the?
Speaker 1:shit. So yesterday, right, I had a podcast, had a conversation with my partner, casey, on the couch, right, and I was like I got this fucking thing that I'm doing and I fucking don't know why, right, and what she told me blew my mind, bro. I was like holy fuck. And it's nothing like new to me, because you know the things that we knew speak about in our one-on-ones and through set the standard community, but man, it's essentially just like my ego, right, this fucking thing, bro. So for me it's like, for me, I had a massive sort of breakthrough in terms of like I am not doing the thing, right, and why am I not doing the thing? Okay, let's get into that. I'm not doing the thing because my ego is keeping me safe from doing that, from not doing the thing and stepping up, for example, into my personal brand, and I and I know that me stepping up to and being, and you know, stepping up into the best version of myself, so I can nail my personal brand I'm not doing that because I'm scared to be seen. And for me, why the fuck am I scared to be seen when I know I want to do that? And so how she was saying to me. She was like well, what has come up for you in the past when what has come up for you in the past that has made you scared to be seen? And I'm like I don't know. She's like, yeah, you do fucking know, let's get into it. So it's like so it's like fuck, all right.
Speaker 1:I sat there for like 10 minutes in silence and she's just staring at me and death staring at me. I'm like, fuck, what's she going to do? And it's literally brought it down to the fact that throughout my life, growing up, like my family, especially my parents, wanting to be such private people and being private, and like judging people who have stood up in the spotlight, and for me, realizing like, like, especially in my business, like how I, like my perception, like influences and how you know, like back in the day, it's like, oh, that's so lame, why do you do that? Like, why do you put yourself out there so cringe? And you know, literally realizing that my, the reason why I'm not doing that is because my ego is literally keeping me from keeping me safe by telling me not to do that.
Speaker 1:And it's like, well, I don't want to do that, I want to do the thing, so why am I doing the thing? And so for me it's like holy fuck when I do get to the point where, not wanting to, not do the thing I need to, then do the thing I need to actually lean in and then do it Right, living on my edge, right. And so for me it's like holy fuck, like all right, well, what other areas of my life am I doing that? And then I just fucking open the can of worms, like fuck, like there's so many things. What are the areas Like?
Speaker 1:Okay, for one, I guess, in relationship, right, in my like relationship with, like a case here, when things come up, I just want to push things to the side and not talk about it, because a lot of things come up for me, like in, like in my childhood, nothing, nothing crazy, I guess, just like being in a third world country, right, and from South Africa, yeah, well, one thing where safety was a huge thing, and also how I guess we like we grew up as a really wealthy family and the people around us weren't as wealthy. So it's like fuck, like, how do we like what's the like, what's?
Speaker 2:how do I say like create some sort of discord?
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, it's like for everybody being judged like oh yeah, cause you know how some people like you know don't shine too bright, cause it was going to judge you and pull you down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, like they're going to feel jealous, or maybe even come in and if you're in a third world country, still from you blier, betray you behind your back, be envious, which can be like overwhelming. Sometimes it'd be like shit, don't tell anyone, we'll get our shit stolen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and that too, yeah, just like fear of, like what people are going to like think of us and like judge us. And I think, like that really like affects me in, like today, like especially like okay, one thing in leadership, right, when there's a bit of conflict and I know what to do, like I know how to, how I want to lead this conversation, I know what I need to say, and then I bitch out and I don't fucking do it. And then afterwards I'm like, why did I do that? Like I know that I needed to say this. I want to take the conversation this way. Okay, why am I doing that?
Speaker 1:So it's like my egos make me feel safe, cause I'm scared of what they're going to think of me.
Speaker 1:When I do that like having tough conversations, right, and I think up until like I would say, dude, like since you and I started working together, like in March, only now, have I really started to like crack open my heart, like really open up and step into that, like really feel that and have those tough conversations.
Speaker 1:Like I literally think, dude, like especially with me and my partner KCa, I would say, man, like every week we're like balls deep in just so much of the shit, like working out all the shit between us so not between us, but like our own demons like helping each other, um, so that we can literally just like step into this, like especially for me, like step into this leadership role that I really want to do, like I know that's for me, you know what I mean, um, but it's just funny. Like just trying back to what you said earlier, the thing that's blown my mind recently is just how much your ego makes you feel so safe and stops you from doing the thing because of whatever that thing could be in that person. For me, it's like being seen, you know. There we go.
Speaker 2:My mic's got near me on two seconds. I would like to know, then what is your ego, what were the beliefs and why was it keeping you safe? I think the stories I was telling myself.
Speaker 1:I think, going back it's more. It was a lot around like self worth, I'm not good enough to do this. You know who am I to do this? Why? I think just because, okay, well, I think mainly because growing up I think I'm not good enough to do this, but growing up it was like Riva has ADHD.
Speaker 1:Okay, I heard that a lot throughout my whole family, especially my parents, and like a lot of my siblings. And you know whether that's friendly banter, fair enough, I don't care, it's funny, who cares? But a lot of the time it was like Riva has ADHD, please just excuse what he says. Or you know, you do things because you're different and like would laugh about it and it's like, okay, fair enough. But like that was like I heard that a lot, you know, like family meeting, like sorry dinners and meeting with friends and family, it's like, oh, this bloke's got ADHD, like don't worry about what he says and everyone laughs and I'm like fuck okay, fuck off, what does that even mean?
Speaker 1:So I think like that for me, dude, like if I had to pinpoint one massive break, I've had like working with you. Specifically, it has been that breaking them, a whole ADHD thing. Cause I remember when I first joined the community and started talking to you, you said, riva, you've literally mentioned in the space of like 20 minutes that you have ADHD like a hundred times. Like, dude, it's okay, like, let's get into it. And so for me, dude, like breaking that down has been so big for me because it's like I think that has held me back so much because I've put a label on like oh, I got ADHD. I'm an idiot, I can't do anything, I'm never going to achieve much. So when I do put myself in situations, it's like fuck, what do I do? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Instead of realizing, it's like it's actually a part of you, it's who you are and it's a superpower, and not to back away from it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been massive for me, bro. Yeah, just thinking about, I never really thought the impact it had, hey, because just thinking back into it in terms of like oh, people would just say in conversation and laugh about it. But it's like fuck bro, like that kind of wasn't okay in a sense. You know, like hearing that repeatedly because I probably heard that to the, to the, from an early age up until I might do it even now. But to be fair, I know I obviously had my own demons when I was a little kid, like I was hyperactive or whatever, right, whatever that was getting expelled from school was too hyperactive or whatever. It sounds like you just never taken seriously.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's, that's a huge thing, bro. And for me I've realized that, especially like now, even towards my parents and and you know they're great parents, right but I just feel like a lot of what it comes down to is I just don't get taken seriously. Like for me it's like moving to the goal coast, like I want to move to the fucking goal coast, like I'm living with my sisters. I'm not my sisters, I'm, I want to move, bro, I can do my own shit right now, right. And it's like, oh well, what about them? What?
Speaker 2:about them.
Speaker 2:You know like, well, let's explain that scenario first because, like, your situation is like quite different and I like getting into it and it's open if you want to get into it or not on the podcast. But, like I know from your specific situation, like with your parents, is you got a lot of parenting put on to you. Then part of yourself had to work so hard, create as much money as possible, crush it in the e-com, crush things yourself and have all the responsibility so that you could step up and like move things around. So if you'd like to talk about, explain that situation and then start talking about how, like you know, when you want to get taken seriously, now is sometimes it's like Are people believe me? Are they not? And, yes, I can go and do this.
Speaker 1:Yes, so from an early age I would say so I've been to often a school right and going to uni. My parents moved down to Sydney, sorry, to Tassie.
Speaker 2:From South Africa to Tasmania.
Speaker 1:No, so we all moved to Brisbane.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Dad worked and then I, and that was when I was 13. But when I was 18 my parents moved to Tassie because they bought a little RGS to one strong. So they live there and that's cool, but about. But at the time my two younger siblings went with them, right, and that's what I know. This was in Sydney. They went to sit before Tassie. So in Sydney, my two younger siblings with them, and then I was living at home. I was 18. I was fucking loving this is sick, doing my own shit, crushing it at uni, doing all these graduate roles, love it, whatever. And then my parents then got an opportunity to then go to Tassie to buy a little IGA store, because my dad's been in corporate retailers all life, right and sort of.
Speaker 1:When they moved there, my two younger siblings at the time had just finished high school. They didn't want to go there, go to Tassie. It's like a population of like a thousand people. They don't want to do that like in the little small town. So the responsibility got put up to me, where it's like okay, well, I have to now move out of home, get into a move into an actual house to look after my two siblings and they'll sort of put onto me. It's like Riva can do that and and and.
Speaker 1:A lot of stories I had before that from my parents was like you know, we love you so much. You, we feel like you know, you're just, you're the rock to this family. You keep it on together and and whatever that. Whatever that means, like you know, I guess you know is a good thing, but didn't realize at the time like deep down what it actually kind of did to me. But like what was put onto me, all the responsibility and like the things I had to put on hold in my life. So, going a bit deeper into that, I had to, yeah, sort of like bring up my two younger siblings, like taking the school and teach them how to drive, do that sort of stuff. And I love that, that's cool, that's, that's alright. Like I really did enjoy doing that because I think for me that really showed me, that really opened up my perception on leadership and what that meant, and I was like holy fuck, like you know, like I know, like I was actually born for this and not like raising my like to I didn't really raise them, but just taking the school and how to drive, doing those basic necessity things. But for me it's like shit, like this, this is leadership. Like I, like this, like fuck, I want to get more into this stuff. So I think, on the one end, I was put on this massive responsibility, but on the other end, it taught me a lot about leadership, right, like how to hold myself, how to help them work through things and and yeah, and then from then it's just literally, it's been like that ever since.
Speaker 1:So, like I'm 28 now and just moving out because you know I'm even so, we, we moved out of home, out of that house. We're willing at the time because my younger brother then went back to when to target, to work whatever, and then I had to then move out, me and my partner a case here we had to move out with my two younger sister because it's like fuck, well, at that time we wanted to actually move out to our own place, but for that they were like, well, what about us? Like we, you know we need someone to stay. So I thought, all right, we'll find somewhere and live with them. So it's coming back to, I guess, that people pleasing and responsibility piece.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I think right now I'm just like fuck.
Speaker 1:Like, looking back on it.
Speaker 1:I kind of just wish I probably would have done things a little differently, but in the same sense I like to look at things positive and negative.
Speaker 1:Man, like honestly, like it taught me a lot about leadership and a little about myself and how to like hold myself. So there's anything good taking out of it, it would be that. And also because you know, looking after them and providing and being that male figure in their life not not because I'm not only thing, because my dad was there as well, he's really active father he's. He's as well, but like actually present, like I was there, living with them, like helping them through things, whatever, taking the work, driving stuff. So, just thinking back on, a lot of things were put on to me, but I did see a bit of a shiny light in terms of the whole leadership thing and that's what really and that's what I've, me and you've worked together and really we really cracked that open recently and I'd like to know how you think working on your own self development and your own leadership has transformed you and your business.
Speaker 1:Oh bro, this is massive. We're just talking about it before. Oh man, honestly, I'm a massive believer and I think everyone goes to this. It's when you reach the stage of Fucking bullshit so your business is just a reflection of you. And when I realized that I was like Fucking ego flat out. But no, it's not. What does this mean? Like no, don't worry, but like you're, you're good, you know, you're amazing. You don't do this, not me, not you. Like, let you know, let's, let's, let's, put your attention to this, you know, let's make you feel safe. Like, don't worry about that.
Speaker 2:Like this very that do you remember the moment like do you remember the story of, like you know where you were, what you're doing in your business, in your house, or Like wherever you were, and you're like, oh shit, this is why my business is reflection of me and then like real time what was happening in your business and in your personal life?
Speaker 1:I think I showed that. I think it was multiple conversations mean a case you had because she's also a co-founder in our business as well, in pure you right, and for me, bro, a lot of the time she would. We would have like arguments and things that come up for me. I wouldn't really know like I can feel something, but I don't know what it is like. I know there's something wrong. We're trying all these things releasing like working, lots of influences, marketing, ads, whatever I everything's doing, okay, but what the fuck is what is going on like why is everything so up and down and crazy? Like why, why is in a like consistent growth, if that makes sense, right? And I think it just came down to conversations that were her and I had.
Speaker 1:I can't really pinpoint an actual particular moment, but it was more just the constant conversations, the compounding conversation. She would say, like what the fuck's going on? Like, you know this is happening in the business, but do you know that like isn't it funny that this is happening in your life? Because I remember the time in case he was doing coaching with Chloe, right, your partner, and she was rapidly growing and I was like fuck, like I'm seeing, I'm seeing her grow so much and for me I'm like, fuck, like.
Speaker 2:Is it scary as a?
Speaker 1:guy yeah, dude, honestly, honestly, I felt so like de-masculated egg, as I'm like I'm like she is like I can see her growing so fucking rapid that she's condensing so much time, like fuck okay.
Speaker 2:Do you think, like many other guys out there are in similar positions?
Speaker 1:I think so, yeah, but I think whether or not you can get to a stage and just admit, admit to yourself like dude, like you don't have everything fucking worked out, like you know, like, and also admit yourself like your fucking ego is there, it's leading your life and you don't even know it, like that, that also mean like, and I think a lot of the work that case it was going with Chloe she would talk to me about and then those conversations she had with me in terms of understanding that you just reflection of your business is, this reflection of you, came from that and then I was like, fuck, like. And then she, and then it got to a point where because I know, I said earlier, you asked me this got to a point where the world like, oh, I've got these things coming up, but I don't know what they are, because I know there's, I know, this happening in my business, but like, fuck, I know this means something. And then she's like, alright, this is happening business, because you do this, you do this, you do this, this, this. I'm like, fuck, I do all of those things. That's exactly what those things were, what they were putting things off, not paying bills on time not delegating to, not not working to your strengths, especially as a leader, not because you know you have, you have visionaries and you have integrators, right to completely different things, and I didn't have any.
Speaker 1:I didn't have trust, my business partner other business partner, vlad, or a case here and that had nothing to do with them and everything to do with me. The way that they were, the way that they were in business and the way our relationship was got nothing to do with them who was all a reflection of me. That was it. And when I realized that, I was like who the fucking I speak to? I need to speak to someone in case, like, well, corey does, close partner does, and I'm like Corey, hit you up, bro, let's do this. I need to work with you. I need to fix my fucking head, bro, I need some help.
Speaker 2:We already started making lots of progress from like to original, overcome the chaos, like the program is set the standard.
Speaker 2:So you're like, yeah, you're well, like on the way, and then I think you just needed a sledgehammer Like bang, this is how it is.
Speaker 2:So what's happened, man, like what I'm like for you, what are some things?
Speaker 2:Because, like, I think this is really important conversation for modern leaders, especially, you know, especially us guys from the age, you know, like 25 to 45, who are in here on on the hustle train.
Speaker 2:Right, we're in here working as hard as we can do and focusing on, like you know, not noticing now that it's not just balls to the wall the whole time. It's like, okay, you're working as hard as you can, even when you're resting, even when you're playing, even when you're thinking, because it's all trying to deal with, like coping with the sheer amount and capacity of work and all the rest of it that we got to do right, it's a lot, so really passionate about this conversation and I just like to know, like, your thoughts and opinions, especially if you speak in it like your story, so I think it'd be beneficial for other people, for your steps, for progress. Okay, so what? My story is sort of like After you come in and what you've been working on, highlighting these parts of your ego and what you've been looking at and the decisions and changes that you've been making, like your realizations that have helped you move forward. Like what are some of those stories and then why they've been beneficial.
Speaker 1:Okay, I really gotta go deep in thinking yeah, let's do it. I think for me, a massive, a massive story for me was self worth. Right, putting myself out there and connecting with higher people in especially contrapreneur networking with people that know more than me, right, but being scared of being seen in that way and also being scared to be seen as a leader, because I know that that's for me. I know, I know I'm a leader bro, I know that, that, that that should for me, but it's not. It's like, why aren't I fucking doing that? Scared to be seen in your power? Yeah, I was extremely scared to be seen in my power because I'm doing to me the time.
Speaker 1:Like, fuck, I know I want to be doing this, but why am I not doing it? Like it's so easy, like I can see the steps, so fucking easy. All I gotta do is show up, I gotta speak to these people. I can literally name it. I can name from start to finish what exactly does I need to do. But why the fuck aren't I doing this? And I haven't had a conversation with you and Glenn on on one of the calls, and it's like Dude, you first of all, you're just getting in your own fucking way. And, second of all, you just being a bitch Right and it's like, okay, let's get deep, let's get fucking deeper into that.
Speaker 1:And it's like, well, why, why is that? Why do I, why are you not doing the thing that you know and that you know you should be doing the thing? And it comes from a place where you might keep my ego, keeping me safe, based on the stories I'm telling myself in terms of, like, self worth, like you're not good enough to do that. You're not good enough to do that. So I think, for me, a big thing that I'm working on now is okay. Now that I know those things, now that I know those things right now, what's talking from from, from leveling up and living through my purpose and doing the thing? How do I, how do I lead with that, knowing that that could still happen, like you know how your ego pulls you back. How do I lead? Lead with that, knowing that your ego can still pull you into that same space?
Speaker 2:It's like you're scared of being seen in your power, because you're afraid that if you are seen in your power, people still aren't going to take you seriously.
Speaker 1:No, I, generally, and even sitting here now, I feel like I feel that, bro, and I can feel what's coming off me right now, like, even like my ego is up right now and it's like fuck, like what is it? What is coming on? Well, it's, it's like that. It's like, alright, well, no, you are, you know, you are. No, no, you can be seen like you are. You know what I mean. Like the contrary, and it's like okay, well, why aren't I doing this? Why is why I'm not posting it this way? Why am I not Following with my leads? Why I'm not cool, these people, one more doing this? So it's like fuck, all right, well, so, obviously you aren't doing it wasn't then? Then, why, you know it's like, and then it comes back to fuck, like having I worked through this, like if I know that I need to, I need to step up and Not need to, but like it's that I know that fucking life is for me, like this new, this whole fucking galaxy. If that, if I know that's for me and I know the steps to get there, why am I doing that? Do you know what I mean? But, in the same sense, it's like, okay, well, if, if I know that and I know the ego pulls you back to you know to be, for you to be safe, and you know that as well. Then why aren't you there already? Because you know, because you know what I mean, like you've already worked it out like what? Like, if you Know your ego is doing that, then why aren't you there? So what's the breakthrough?
Speaker 1:I Think the breakthrough is just for, firstly, showing myself compassion in terms of I haven't, you know I, I'm meeting myself where I am. I only you know, I know what I know right now doesn't take from. It doesn't take, doesn't take away from what I know, my tools, my skills, experience that I've you know that I've learned up until this point. It doesn't take away from that. That showing us off compassion and, yeah, just getting out of my own fucking way and just doing that, just doing the thing like and like. Okay, well, that actually looked like, like, tangibly was setting up, setting up my Google calendar every single day. Okay, from Monday to, from, from 4 am To 6 pm. This is what I do from Monday to Friday and and literally just living by that like and like, like a, like a monster, just like being hungry and and and just fucking literally living by that like, yeah, like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. Sometimes things are so simple. It's like, right, let's design a Google calendar, put in all the things that I love to do and my work and what I want to Specifically do, and then don't cheat on it. I.
Speaker 1:Mean I would. I mean, obviously, you know you being a hundred percent at it is a bit difficult, like especially when you first like like to be honest, bro, like I haven't been a hundred percent at it, like I'm not sitting here saying, yeah, I fucking worked everything out. I'm so amazing. Look at me. Like you know, they're still shit. Like I, I haven't stuck to it a hundred percent, but I've been at least 50 60%, but I'm 50, 60 percent more ahead than I was fucking two weeks ago and that is the best thing for me to look at.
Speaker 2:Like I'm like, fuck, I've done this and Like one thing that I really like and then you like to rise up to. It's just like it's like a buzzword for all men. It's just like oh well, this thing is what you're currently doing right now is like inside your comfort zone. He's not figuring out the things that like help you get outside your comfort zone. Yeah, so what have been? What have been some like get outside your comfort zone moments that have like gotten your results? Oh bro, I'll tell you a funny story.
Speaker 1:So one thing for me Okay, go back. Go back six months ago. Oh my god, I would never have fucking posted anything. I would never put myself out there. I wouldn't be working my personal brand. No, riva doesn't do that. Fuck. No, that that for me. I would rather be like by going back six months. I'd rather be homeless than do that like. That's how, that's how scary was me. I was like I fuck this, I'm so scared of judgment, I'm so scared of people are gonna say about me I can't do it, fuck that, I'm not good enough, right. So I got to a point when I worked with that and I was like fuck it, I don't give a fuck anymore, right, I filmed. What was that moment? You're like I don't give fucking anymore. What was that working with?
Speaker 1:like okay, it was, um, it was, it was it was what you'll, it was module one or two or three in the set center community.
Speaker 2:When, when you go program.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, overcome, like chaos. Okay, the first thing I did with you, right, it was going down into the like the depths of despair, hell in heaven. And then you just rise up like a fucking phoenix, and and and. For me I was like fuck, like holy fuck, like I Can see all my shit, I know what I want to do. Fuck this fuck. Everyone thinks about me. I'm gonna just fucking do it right? So I filmed all this fucking content because, like, I'm really working on a personal brain, like helping other people and in Ecom scale their businesses and I fucking love them so passionate about it, right, film, film some content got to the point where I needed to post it and I was like fuck.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, do you remember, like what it wasn't? Yeah, yeah, I know what it was.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you, bro. So I'm looking to be the content. I'm like. I filmed, it got edited. It's fucking good.
Speaker 2:I was the content, what it was.
Speaker 1:It was teaching people the five stages of consumer awareness, like how you need to leverage that into your marketing in Ecom and how that will just like 10x your marketing. It's fucking insane, right. And I was like holy fuck, like this is actually so sick, like this is really good, but it's like fuck. All I gotta do is like all the good is press, press post. I've got the fucking content gone, I've written all the captions, I've done everything. All good is press post. I'm like fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. What do I do? Kind of my, oh my god, hashtags.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everything, all I do to go. Yeah, I had. We eat your car in your house. Do you remember all your?
Speaker 1:I was in my bedroom with a case here, but and I think she was on she was actually on a call with Chloe at the time and I was pacing up into that hallway. I'm like, fuck, bro, what have you got yourself into? Is this thing really right for you? Is this thing with Corey really right for you? And that's my ego, bro, right, that's my ego, because I've got nothing to do with you, there's everything to do with me. And then I was like fuck it. I Fucking Realized.
Speaker 1:I was like why am I so scared? Why am I so scared of potions? It's like, okay, I named three. I named three people, three of my mates who are the whole earth was gonna judge me. I was like, fuck, I'm so scared because, okay, these particular people are gonna judge me. Because, because I was at a point I was like, okay, I could understand, pinpoint the thing, that what was I feeling? What's coming up for me? It's like, okay, these three people will judge your. Fuck it. I mean, I'm so scared like, fuck it, fuck it.
Speaker 1:I didn't give a fuck anymore, posted it, sent it to them straight away. And I was like, hey, bro, I'm doing this new thing now. I've just launched a personal brand. What do you think of this video? And I shut my phone down. I didn't look at a fucking hour and I was like shitting myself. I'm like, oh my fucking god, like pacing sweating.
Speaker 1:I was like, holy shit, open my phone and they were like dude, this is so amazing. I can't believe like you do this, like this is so amazing. Well done, bro. I love you so much and I'm like, oh my god, it's out of crying. I was like, oh my fucking god, like you know, people out there, all they want to do is just love you and Celebrate you and then want to see you in your power. They, that's all they want, you know.
Speaker 1:So everything that you fucking think of is just your like to the contrary, that is, your ego pulling your way to keep you feel, to make you stop, because it's easy to just do nothing and be fucking lazy and do and, and, and, you know, put yourself in a situational position where you don't have to be seen because, because, then, because, then you know, you know, if you do do that, you have to show up. You got to post consistently. You got a network. You got to spend money yourself. You know. You know what I mean, you got to do all those things, so it's easy to not do that.
Speaker 1:That's why, for me, that was a big breakthrough and I'm fucking loving it. Now I'm posting shit connecting with people, making fucking bank yeah, I've made one. Never made more money in my life that I'm making. Now. I'm like holy fuck, this is so fucking sick, you know. I'm like holy shit, like it. And for me, thinking back now, when people ask me that, I'm like fuck, it's so simple, like it was. It wasn't some magic potion or like some magic trick, bro. It was more like holy fuck, like the. What was literally stopping me from getting to that thing that I said You're like like getting like that new version of Riva, that fucking new galaxy version was me, was me, bro. How the fuck does that make sense? Make make that make sense. How the fuck. So if I want to get to this stage and I know the steps to get there how the fuck am I holding myself back? So have you seen that? That meme?
Speaker 2:like the video of that kid and he's like holding onto some rope in the water and he's like screaming and crying and screaming and crying. And then someone just grabs his feet and puts him down and he stands up and he's like, oh, but that's what it's like, right? Yeah, you know, because it's so simple, because you gotta do is like put your feet down and stand up and be like oh, it's actually really shallow in here, like internally, you're having a full panic attack for a while and it's like you can't like do anything. So that's where, like the, the skill of emotional intelligence and self-awareness, comes into it, but yeah, dude it's
Speaker 1:it's fucking, you know, and and and just doing this, like. So go back six months ago. I didn't really realize my true potential. I was like, because of all the things they came up and all the stories, telling myself you know, that's experiment they did where they had a jar of fleas and they so that. So this scientist, he put people like thousands of fleas in this jar, right, heaps of fucking fleas and close a lid, yeah, and they're jumping up and down, heaps jumping up and down and then, and then open the jar and then they didn't jump out because they that was, they knew that that that was their max capacity.
Speaker 1:And for me at that time I was like, fuck, like this is all there is for me. Like, fuck this. Okay, she's doing all this personal development work, she's Crushing it, she's doing all this amazing shit, she's growing, she's fucking skyrocketing. I'm like, and I'm feeling left behind, like fuck, I feel so lonely, so so stuck. What do I do, bro? You know? And that probably the worst period of my life, bro, and that was literally like, how long ago was that? Like? Probably August last year and we're in 2023 now and it's May. It's almost all this again. So for me, I Working on all this shit has literally taught me so much, bro, so much, and we've only started working together personally, one-on-one, since three months ago, men, two months ago, and fuck, they're thing I've ever done.
Speaker 2:How cool is that? Well, for people who are listening right now, who are, you know, wanting to get into, like, either online business, or people who are wanting to really level up their leadership, move through their team and Really being the position of growing themselves and having tangible results, is like what. What sort of piece of advice Would you give to them that you wish you could have given to yourself when you were in their position? The?
Speaker 1:biggest piece of advice I would give is invest in yourself in some form of purse development, in some form of capacity, because If you can, if, if I can pay you 20k for three months to condense three years of time, why wouldn't I do that?
Speaker 1:Why that to me is is a no-brainer if I can skip three years of my life right now and pay someone 20k or 100k, why the fuck wouldn't I do that? To me it makes so much sense. So for anyone in business right now who is going through shit right now, like if your business up or down, like I just know that there's something there, especially as an entrepreneur, because there's fucking shit there. There is, I can guarantee. And don't fucking say there isn't because that's just your ego saying no, I get it like not everyone's perfect, bro, there's shit there for everyone. And when you have that feeling you know there's something there, invest in some form of purse development in some form, whether that's a course or a coach, and that's the best piece of advice I can give someone that's insane, and I like to talk about that because the entrepreneurs journey is like it's pretty full on.
Speaker 2:I don't think it is for everyone. One thing that I'm passionate about as well especially work, especially working with people and having, like my own employees is like Sometimes it's a lot to bear. We have Idealized the notion of, you know, living. Living the laptop, no, the laptop lifestyle with all this stuff, but it's like.
Speaker 2:No, you know, one of the reasons that Bill Gates created like lap, like the reason he created Computers and laptops, was to give the individual the power of an entire organization. All right, but within that you also have to deal with the stress of like an entire organization. And I love it because I this thing goddamn. I think that the entrepreneurs journey just is just a reflection of the heroes journey. It's just a modern-day heroes journey and, like you can come through, babe.
Speaker 2:Look at three more you missed that a case. You came around before as well. No, she had the head done. She'll come back, for sure You're gonna be gone. Love you, bye, see you, darling.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I believe that the entrepreneurs journey is just a reflection of the heroes journey and it's like what do we do? We face trials and tests and tribulations and we got to deal with temptation. We've got a master, our own ego. We have to go on the adventure itself and then we have to, you know, really find our ultimate gift and then bring that to the world and integrate it with the world. And it's like a really cool reflection of what happens in Just our businesses in the modern day. And I do think part of that you know, that modern-day process is what comes up with, not just all the things that happen in the business, but personally, because you have to deal with so much like with the hero, in the heroes journey there was like there was so much weight that they would have to bear and like Responsibility and most of the time the heroes and all the old school stories like stuffed up and had terrible endings, like majority of them did.
Speaker 2:It's crazy and what I think is is it's some people just admitting to themself that sometimes it may not be for you and Instead of trying to bear all that responsibility, yourself is. It's especially now because you may not have the skills and capabilities or the personal growth yet. If that's the case and it's like, well, what is your vision, what is your goal? And if you've got no someone else who was doing it, jump on, jump on their bandwagon. Hmm, like, jump on with them for a period of time. Help them build up, help them achieve all the success that that they might have, and you might have way more fun Doing that.
Speaker 2:But if you are someone who is a leader and wants to rise up in a position and that sounds really exciting Then shoot for the moon. But also it's be aware of what we're talking about the ego in that dark side, which is just the, the cheeky little fellow that, when you're sprinting, will just Swipe your legs out behind you and you fall flat on your face. And it's like, wow, what do you do there? You know what I mean. I'm all by myself, alone in this dark field, and it's like, no, that's just an illusion you've created for yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just ask for help, and I think that's where I'm now. Bro, if you In talking about the hero journey because I haven't done the entrepreneurs one just yet but in terms of the, but in terms of the theory, bro, I'm gonna get into that shit. It's cool as hell, we will, we'll get into that. But I'm actually doing a hero journey now and I'm in right now in the Billy the whale, bro. I've been there for a fucking four weeks.
Speaker 2:We'll talk to us about that. If you were like the belly of the whale in the hero journey and like you in your life, what does that look like?
Speaker 1:For me, bro, right now. So it's it's all these demons, all these shadows, all these things that are coming up for me so that, because that's what it is right, the Billy, the whale right and a Lot of it, is this a lot of it sort of ego and, like I was saying earlier, like self-worth, self-doubt and, you know, like a big thing for me. It's like stopping and starting thinking what the fuck do I do that like throughout my life, like, for example, gym programs, going to the gym, in business? Why is one month up, one so down, like so so strange? You know, why can I, what I feels, why do I feel so like stuck when it comes to like committing to something not run, not relationships, obviously in relationships, but in terms of like things like in your life, like diet, training, friendships, fucking business, fucking, paying bills, hiring, fire or that shit. So you know, so, for me it's like all, like that's where I'm now learning all that shit and going through the coursework and, bro, like that's a lot of like our conversations now too, it's like, dude, you're just not doing the doing good to being a bitch, or this is happening all that and it's like fuck, okay, shit. Like one minute I'm like fuck yeah, I just fucking conquered this. Fuck yeah. And it's like, no, you fucking, what about? What about this? I'm like fuck, fuck, I just been smacked back down like fuck. But, dude, it's a good thing, right? I like that, it's, I think it's so good to do that. And I think what really, what a really what?
Speaker 1:What it really boils down to is like how do you hold yourself in that, like you said, like you get smacked by, like you know your legs get tapping. You're like for new face, you're lonely. Fuck, how do you hold yourself? What do you do? What conversations do you fucking have with yourself? You know what I mean. And the thing for me it's like fuck, like I know, like One massive story I've always told myself, especially in this belly of the whale thing. It's like, oh, someone's gonna, someone will just do it for me, right, someone will save me, save my business, someone come in and do it all for me. And it's like no, dude, like you're all alone right now, like hypothetically, like I'm all alone and you have to figure this out for your fucking self. Like stop asking people to help you. And it's the instant.
Speaker 1:Stupid things, bro. Like I said in my part all the time oh, where's this, where's that? And she's like fucking up in your eyes. I'm like fuck, because I because, because, because I've actually said to her, I've actually said to her when I ask you, when I fucking ask you for things To help me do things, don't just say you can sort it out, you can sort it out right, and that that that might seem, might seem so simple and so stupid. But, bro, it helps me so much because I'm like, fuck, all right, I can't do it myself, fuck, yeah, and I can do other things myself. And there is my life. I mean. So so for me, dude, yeah, that was, that was a pretty big thing that I've been going through. A yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's really cool because you know, when you have those moments of being aligned and when you are Aligned with what you say you want to do and you do stuff, moments of magic start happening.
Speaker 2:Hmm whether it's like a leadership experience or something works out in business, and you're like, holy shit, look at this no piece of success which I've just walked into my life and all I did was just grab it. Well, I've stepped up as a leader here, having this conversation with someone, or you know this thing that I haven't been talked about or haven't been empowering someone beforehand, and look at this happen. Have you got any of those Magic moments on the top of your head, some of those stories?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I've actually got a pretty, pretty cool story actually. So for us, one one massive thing is putting ourselves in a room with people that know more than us. Right, and you know how cool we so big on this. Like, if you're the smartest person and you're in the wrong room, and for us it's like all right, I'm going to put myself out there. I fucking hate being seen. Fuck it, I'm going to do it anyway because I'm living on my edge and that's when the magic happens. Right, that's that's what you just said.
Speaker 1:And so for us, kcia, my partner she was in honeybeardette shopping for lingerie for her, her hen's night for her One of her best friends, I just got married and in there was a CEO of honeybeardette and she she's messaging me saying, holy fuck, with the CEO just walked in. What do I do? I'm like, go say, hey, you we have. You've just said you're gonna put yourself in a room with people that know more than you. Go say, hey, introduce yourself. You know you're entrepreneur, you have your own fucking business. We should love to know that.
Speaker 1:She went in there, spoke to a network with her. She loved KCia so much and they built a relationship so much that she's actually besties with the, with the founder of mr Vitamins, and we just did a multi-five figure deal with mr Vitamins to get a product in all their stores. That's fucking. And now we meet up with her regularly, probably once a month, and she's amazing, she's, she's helped us how like parallel our business. She's unreal. And or just from a conversation that KCia had in honeybeardette and I remember I was playing golf and she's like what do I do? I'm like go and talk to her. She would love to, you know, go network with her. And she did that. And now from that, holy fuck, look what's come from that. And there's probably more things that I don't know and there's probably more things that will come from that.
Speaker 2:Right, and I love that you know being in that position as well, because that's like that's a testament to both of you and both of you empowering each other in those situations and like learning what that is and like actually getting outside your comfort zone and and taking those opportunities and like say, hey look, that's where they are Crazy. So what have you got any other stories of empowerment or getting at your comfort zone in those ways? I like team stuff. I'm like interesting leadership at the moment. Leadership stuff.
Speaker 1:I think, okay, a massive thing for us was the communication between me, my business partner and the case. Like we have our own roles but no one, we don't really communicate. And so for us, I was like fuck, this is a massive problem, right, um, especially working with you, like dude, like how do you do this on my fuck, like okay, shit, like Everything's up and out of the moment because we actually didn't communicate. It's fucking, why not? So we so from a Google Calendar that you help me implement, you can spell like a thousand. Anyway, we now meet, we credit slack channel, we, we worked, so we have like it.
Speaker 1:We all do like tall, like this hectic 12 month goal for us and own roles, and then we break it down quarterly and then we have weekly tasks to then meet those quarterly goals. And we posted in our slack channel Mondays and Fridays. We met up every Monday and Friday and it's like this, like hype, shit that we get on there, we jam and we hug each other up and for us implemented that level of communication. I think for me, for me as a leader, I'm like fuck, like we actually need to do this to propel our business and We've accomplished more than I would say in three months. We have in about two, three weeks of just doing that and and literally think about this. How simple is that? Just talking to your business partners about what you're doing, what they're doing. Hold here, holding each other accountable, going through each other's roles, giving each other help. It's so fucking easy.
Speaker 2:This is one thing that really frustrates me with tradie business owners no, I'm here on trades like no, we just got to work.
Speaker 2:We got to work, work, work, work and not like talk about anything. And it's just a direct example. When you're like in the position, everyone's talking, everyone's on the vision, everyone's on the mission and they wanted to succeed as best as possible, you're like, yeah, let's just talk about it, hope each other up, get pumped to do what we love, and then Then there's no slacking off, there's like people can rest and do the things when they need, but they know exactly what they're doing to get the results and they get done plus a little bit extra.
Speaker 1:Crazy, make it make sense.
Speaker 2:I was like tired on this podcast. Like you use the Google Calendar, yeah, please.
Speaker 1:No, but I think it's. It's really good especially for that, for the masculine energy. Right, dude? Like following routines, like I know, like I fucking need that, bro. Like you as a leader, as CEO, someone who's a visionary especially if you're a visionary, holy fuck if you don't use your Google Calendar. What are you doing Like? What are you actually doing like you won't like for me, bro, I can't believe how trans transformational it's been in terms of like following this, because the things on there is they're doing like you know, those are things I know I need to be doing and everything I was avoiding. So, like fuck it, fuck my ego for a second there. Like it's okay, it's there for a sec, let's do the shit and everything magic happens, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, and you know, one other thing I want to get into his role is now. This is a really valid, relevant and on topic, and and present right now is Stop being such a sleazy salesman, bro you know, people feel that they have that coming up and they're like, you know, I feel like feeling like a sleazy sales.
Speaker 2:We all, we all go through moments of that. If you're selling online, you have a business, you step up as a leader, sometimes like, oh, like, yeah, for myself, as a leader, I felt so guilty making, like, instructing other people hey, could you do this thing for me? I'd really like to do this thing. And then sometimes, like when things are being frustrated and things are coming up with being like I'm actually frustrated about this, it's, it's not really working right now. Can we do something else? Or like what you're focusing on right now, I'm I'm not sure it's contributing to our goals Currently, at the moment, can we actually change our focus and shift to this and just having requests and like guiding people in the right way?
Speaker 2:I know myself I felt really guilty and I've also been in a position where I've done hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of sales calls and Talking to people and, you know, selling family members, selling friends, selling people who have been, you know, in situations they don't think that they can make or can do it, and I've had to break through those limiting beliefs inside myself of have not seeing yourself as a salesman and seeing yourself as a professional who can help people. So this is present for you right now. I'd love for you to talk on it. Oh bro.
Speaker 1:One thing fuck you for bring this up.
Speaker 2:No man.
Speaker 1:I said from place of love, bro. Yeah, um, honestly, man, I hate being a fucking sleazy, fucking salesman on sales.
Speaker 1:Call some greasy man fucking hate it, sleaze bag, fucking, I fucked up. And so for me, right, I've stepped up into this more of a sales role and what I'm doing is I fucking love it, like it's conversations, right. But when I'm on there, I can't help but feel this. So it's like okay, a lot of the time I Feel like this. So it's like what? I feel like this. So, for example, right, I'll have, I'll have some sales calls and obviously, you know you, when people don't, when people don't want to work with me, it's like why?
Speaker 1:And then what comes up for me is like all right, why don't they trust me? But now I'm at a level where I can hold myself and go, okay, well, where Don't I trust myself? All right, let's start there, because that's, that's really what the problem is, right. So I'm on these sales calls how do I come across? Am I coming across as sales is sleazy salesman? Probably, because I don't trust myself enough to know that I'm worthy of helping this person and accepting their money. Right, and for me, that literally is it and so like self-worth piece again.
Speaker 1:That's our first piece piece again, dude and, and, and, literally, I would say, since working, since being in the community, since August last year, well, I'd say, like the past Eight months, that has literally been the focus of everything, like everything that every sort of break do I've had, and everything I mentioned Previous in the podcast has come from self-worth, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not feeling, not good enough and all this shit, and most of the time it always will always find that Like Alan Watts talked about this, I loved it. He took about the ego and he was like ego sort of like a game of cops and robbers, like if the robbers on the first floor, cops coming to the first floor, they shine the light robbers, I have, we found you. So the robbers run upstairs, right, and then the cops go. Where are they? So the cops run upstairs and they shine the light, the robbers again. They go home and they run upstairs. Eventually they get onto the roof and there may be some part and piece there where it gets integrated which is like, hopefully we get. And then, you know, eventually sometimes the robbers run back into the first floor again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here it is and it's funny because it's actually worked through with brain science for how it works of like you know, when you create new neurons in your brain, it's like you, you start to remove the neurons or the, the electricity that that fires and wires them up, and then eventually, what you do is you focus your brain on other areas and creates new ones. However, if a stress or a memory or a period comes, comes back. That's really familiar to where your ego used to get flat up. Boom, it's flat up again, you go back to square one and I gotta like do this work? So the ego works, you know, in those metaphor ways and like in a spiritual sort of sense of like this is what it looks like, but it actually has brain science behind it as well, because it's been there. But we want to make those Neurons and like the, the networks that they create in your brain, like we want to deactivate them, right, and I kind of forgot what I was going with that you were saying Alan Watts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm what season talks about your ego. Yes, the main problem. So I believe that our ego just evolves. It's explaining, it just evolves and it gets better and it gets stronger and it gets sneakier, and but we're always sort of Almost chasing that same thing, right, which is obviously what's happened with your self-worth ego. So it's like, yeah, I've been working on myself. Ego for you know myself worth, stuff for you know, three, four years, have you gotten any better at it? 100%, I've gotten so much better. But it's usually always coming down to that. So I'm asking question why are you worthy bro? I?
Speaker 1:Mean, we went to the society. This was really fucking hard, dude, this was really hard, like I think we sat in silence for like 20 minutes. I couldn't. I couldn't figure it out. Yeah, fuck, I I know I'm worthy because I've got so much fucking knowledge and Passion and love and energy to share with so many other fucking people in the world. I'm worthy because I have created a multi seven figure business and I stuck to my passions and didn't fucking work in corporate right. I'm worthy because I didn't Conform to the societal norms of go and get a corporate job. You, you know, you've just had it. You've just done a degree. Go get a job, don't do that. I'm proud of myself for actually sticking to what I wanted to do Truly, deep down in my fucking soul. That since when I realized entrepreneurship was for me, when I was like a 12 year old kid.
Speaker 2:And through all the hardship, all the hardship, bro. Yeah, what are some of those things that you went through? What when I was younger? Just the things that were like real difficult, you know to mean just on your journey, you know, upwards entrepreneurship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of the stuff that was difficult was that's because this is a really interesting question, because, not because, okay, this is what's coming up for me, right, when I first started. So when I stopped like I literally did a degree, right, fucking smashed it. What degree? Business, a QT, okay, and then did some corporate, corporate graduate roles, I'm like, fuck, this is so not me, I don't want to do this. What does that?
Speaker 2:have the same experience.
Speaker 1:Fuck, no, no, no, no, not this. And I was like fuck it, you know, I. And then I was sitting sitting on a bit of cash and I was like fuck it, I want to do my business. Why wouldn't I do that? Because that's no, I want to be an entrepreneur. I have my own product. Develop this product me mean my partner case here. We developed this new innovation to beat acne through your gut instead of topical skincare treatments, because that was our own problem. We experienced acne for like six to eight years and we developed this new innovation that beats acne through your gut like balancing your gut DNA. It's fucking wild.
Speaker 1:So at the start of that, I Was really like, excited, had all these ideas put myself out there, connected with naturopaths, microbiologists, scientists, website developers, were whoever right, and I was on a really high frequency household hard, did all this shit credit the brand, launch it. But now Now it's almost like Fuck, like I've like, I've done that, like, what do I do next? Obviously, in terms of my role and what we're doing, and I forgot what you asked me to start because I was going somewhere with this in terms of like, how, like, for where was it the start? I was like what was hard. Okay, this was hard. That's where I was going to go with it At the start, really high energy, had all this passion, this love. But now it's like fuck, like, I feel like it's not there as as where it was. And for me that's a conversation and that's something I'm working through, even with the, my co founder, because we were in a relationship together. So I have these hard conversations, I like to have these conversations with her. So for me it's like fuck, like, why aren't I feeling that anymore? And like, just being honest, like I love the journey, I love, I love the business, I love all that.
Speaker 1:But for me, what it actually falls down to is is more so the actual journey of entrepreneurship, not the actual business itself, if that makes sense. So for me it's like fuck, okay. Well, what I've learned in the last three years, fuck, yeah, I've learned that right. So now I can just replicate that in something else, and that's what I'm currently doing. And I'm like, holy fuck, this is sick. I'm at the same start position where I was at at period. I'm like holy fuck, like I got the same passion, same fire, right.
Speaker 1:And I think I think that was is really powerful for me because a lot of the time I would think like, oh, is it just because I'm stopping and starting again, like I can't commit to something? Is that what it is? But it's like, no, it's a part of it. But what it actually is, what it actually falls down to, is the actual journey for me and I love that journey and I think throughout that three year process because we launched a brand three and a half years ago was the hard things right, was going through all that shit, like the things are coming out for me and then the business and I think that's so cool Because for everyone listening, that's a really good point of reference to say for everyone who right now, who feels like they're stuck, frustrated, they're not clear on what to do next.
Speaker 2:They're getting distracted by shiny object syndrome. Left, right and center, they feel like I don't want to get out of side of my comfort zone because if I get out of my comfort zone I'll be taking a step back. So they're just chasing, not taking a step back. That's what they're chasing and that's reactive decisions scarce decisions which bring in reactive and scarce results. But for all those people being in that position, I think it's just really important to know, just from your story, that that is the beauty of it, that is the journey, that is the love.
Speaker 2:I've been saying this recently with my team. I just love it so much. Every time things get difficult or we feel pressure, people go like because we're comfortable right now, people be like I'm feeling stressed right now. Just want to put that out there, just so everyone know how I'm in Georgia tonight. I'm feeling stressed about everything that's going on and we just say hey, just like you remember right now, while we're still building out the foundations of this massive business, that this is the best time of our life, right now with all the juice, all the passion, all the struggles.
Speaker 2:Well, this is not working. This is not working. Problem solved, problem solved. Problem solved because we love. It is the best times of our life and every skill that we're learning here right now is going to be so beneficial for everyone else further on down the track.
Speaker 1:I can relate to that, bro, because I feel like right now, where I'm at in business is I'm in the trenches, bro, just doing the hard work, doing the killing, doing the fucking.
Speaker 1:Just doing it again, right, yeah, I know, and that's what I've realized like all like stopping and, you know, like all like starting new things. I was like fuck, like it's got nothing to do with shiny objects syndrome, because I know like with that just comes more problems, right, right, everyone knows that. Horizontal thinking, yeah, but it's more like fuck the journey, so sick. I've got all this knowledge and skills and experience. I don't know how to replicate what we've done again. It's so easy for me, so fuck, let's just do it. You know what I mean. So right now it's like in the trenches, hustling, doing the killing, coming home providing. It's like fuck, this is so sick.
Speaker 2:But it's cool, because what you have to go out and kill in, like your journey now is like it's the ego, it's the oh can I really post this? Oh, what are you going to kill is the sleazy salesman of asking people for money because they're investing into me now, they're not just investing into a product, as me and I have to perform and I'm putting on a show. How can I put on? Well, not exactly put on a show, but it's like you're providing a service. I was like how can I do this, you know, for people, because now the responsibility is back on my shoulders and no one else's. But yes, this is the journey, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, but it forces you, bro, like it forced, like, like you said before, killing the ego because you have to do that, because it you now have to show up. You've got clients, you have to serve people. You have to do the doing. You actually have to do it.
Speaker 2:And it's so rewarding as well. It's so if you're in someone who's in that position, like we've been extremely extroverted, so it's like that's where you get so much fulfillment. Yeah, so where, where? What are some moments where you have just felt so much meaning and so much fulfillment and just been so present and proud of yourself? I'd love to hear like one real crisp story of that where I was less feeling proud of myself and meaning like oh, my life is so much meaning right now.
Speaker 1:I think it was when we got nominated for the Melbourne 2022 entrepreneurship awards in our business and when we got that, we were like fuck that's a pretty fucking big achievement.
Speaker 1:Like there's brands up there doing like nine figures, eight figures, and I'm like dude, like we just got fucking nominated, like what the fuck went to this hectic event and I think for me it was more like shit. Like stop, looking at all the I wouldn't say shiny things and low hanging fruit, but more so like stop, but just stop for a second, look at it on a bird's eye view and just literally look at what you fucking achieved. Like we literally created a new innovation, like what the fuck's up with that? And brought it to market.
Speaker 1:Based on our own experiences, I was so sick and tired of all the bullshit I went through in terms of, like my journey with Acne and why there was no product available out there in the market and why people don't really know that 90% of Acne is from your gut, like why is it not available? Fuck. So I just went and fucking made it Right and so just thinking back onto those times, like holy shit, like we've actually created such a hectic brand and we've done so many cool things, and fuck, business doesn't get to be hard, business doesn't get to be fucking shit, it gets to be fun. You get to actually have fun and do the things and you know, get nominated for these awards and you know grow fucking brand and network and be a leader and do these things and just do all the shit and fuck that and fuck this. Like for me it's like holy crap, like this is unreal, I love it.
Speaker 1:And I think for me, bro, it was. It was that moment when we got nominated and it was like something like really, really grateful, and that was actually before I even met you, bro. And thinking back on it now, I was like holy fuck, I could have probably been more grateful, but but yeah, honestly, man, like that moment I was like holy shit, like all. Like everything's going like lightning, fast paced, and it's like we've just been nominated for this thing. That is so amazing. Like you should be so proud. I was so proud of myself. I was like, oh my God, if I didn't develop this thing, we wouldn't even be here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and what's really cool is you get to like, keep that to and remind yourself of that. Oh yeah, so cool, so cool. So, if everyone is listening you've been listening to this podcast if you were to give them one challenge that they could do today, this week, whatever it is, what would you like to challenge them to do? You know what I'm?
Speaker 1:going to say. I challenge them to send them a message to the five closest people in their life about five strengths and five weaknesses.
Speaker 2:It's very confronting exercising.
Speaker 1:That's what I would do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, take it seriously.
Speaker 1:No, seriously, I did it and I was like, oh yeah, cool People are going to say this. I'm like fuck. He goes like fuck, Fuck you for saying that. I'm like fuck, All right. Well, that's how you collapse. Time right, yeah, bro, yeah, 100% yeah. That was very interesting when I did that. Send it to my sisters and I was like you bitches.
Speaker 2:They're listening right now and I like that, and where can people find you On?
Speaker 1:Instagram. Just mention me Riva, both are.
Speaker 2:That's probably the best place to start. Where can they go and see your brands? Personal brands.
Speaker 1:Oh, peer, are you official. So on Instagram at peer, are you, peer? You are a you official.
Speaker 2:And yeah, we're linking our website and all that sort of stuff there. Yep and your coach Ecommerce, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I do one on one coaching with Ecom entrepreneurs who want to scale their brand to five, six, seven figures per month. So, in terms of doing that, building one on one customer strategy to help them, yeah, increase their business performance.
Speaker 2:I love it so much, bro. Thank you for taking your time out of your day and coming onto the podcast. Thank you very much, bro. Appreciate it. Appreciate you, bro. Thank you bro, Thank you.